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REDZONE on 06 June 2016
KLXVER said:
REDZONE said:
People just bitch and moan,bitch and moan.   
                                   

They do? I can pretty much only see people dying to play it...

Good for you.I see most dying to play it,others(another)being "critical"about a story driven trailer with no gameplay.



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Veknoid_Outcast on 06 June 2016
REDZONE said:
KLXVER said:

They do? I can pretty much only see people dying to play it...

Good for you.I see most dying to play it,others(another)being "critical"about a story driven trailer with no gameplay.

No need to be passive-aggressive. If you disagree with my perspective, I'd like to hear how and why. I'm happy to have a respectful conversation with you.



CosmicSex on 06 June 2016

Also, it looks like Sony has mastered the full year release schedule. Even as it stands right now, we still have:
GT Sport, No Man's Sky and other third party games like Star Ocean, Persona 5, the Dreams Beta, and an entire suite of VR games release this year.

Next year for me I want FF12: Zociac Age, Horizon: ZD, and Detroit: BH.



Veknoid_Outcast on 06 June 2016
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

I explained my complaints above. All these little drops add up. If you're fine with the status quo, I respect that.

But there's a reason the industry is defined by cynical business practices; buggy games that require huge day one patches; annualized, creatively-bankrupt series; micro-transactions; and, in general, a huge gap between the haves and the have-nots. Because we as consumers allowed it to happen.

I'm just pointing out how Horizon contributes to what I consider a negative trend in the industry. Is it an inexcusable crime? Not at all. But I do think we need to reflect more on what we expect from the medium and how best to protect ourselves from manipulation, instead of watching something cool and then clicking the pre-order button.

We know more and care more about video games than most people. We should be the vanguard.

I just find it weird that you choose this trailer from a GG games to rant about the stuff you are ranting.

 

Its a new ip in a new genre they never explore.

GG never did make every year releases.

They even delayed it to improve the game.

They never had buggy game.

They never had day one annoying patches.

Or garbage DLC plans.

Its not a cgi trailer.

They already showed gameplay and will probably show next week a new demo.

etc.

I don't think I was ranting. I thought I laid out my thesis in a focused and dispassionate way.

Anyway, this isn't about Guerrilla's resume. It's about negative trends in the industry. I'm asking people to pause and reflect on this medium we all love so much, instead of getting caught up in a wave of hype.

Again, if you're fine with the way things are, then more power to you. I'm not. The video game industry in 2016 is a mess. Profits soar higher and higher every year, yes, but creatively we've hit a brick wall. And publishers are finding new and creative ways to separate us from our money. 

I know it's a lot easier to argue back and forth about this exclusive being better than that exclusive, or bragging about Metacritic scores. I know it's not easy to have these difficult conversations and really analyze our behavior and attitudes. But it would do us good.



teigaga on 06 June 2016

Watching that trailer I have no faith in Guerrilla's ability to tell a compelling story, hopefully they prove me wrong. Regardless the world looks amazing and I'm glad to see there is man vs man combat. Presumably they'll have a big demo planned for E3.

With this, Gravity Rush 2 and The Last Guardian the PS4 is really putting emphasis back onto the adventure game. I love it!



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Nate4Drake on 06 June 2016
GribbleGrunger said:

Soooo sexy !!!!!!!!!  :)



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REDZONE on 06 June 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
REDZONE said:

Good for you.I see most dying to play it,others(another)being "critical"about a story driven trailer with no gameplay.

No need to be passive-aggressive. If you disagree with my perspective, I'd like to hear how and why. I'm happy to have a respectful conversation with you.

OK cool.Last year they showed a demo of the game showing mechanics and other elements,we didn't really know the story(we still don't)then.I think it is only fair(my opinion of course)that this trailer was appropriate and should be given some slack,for not showing gameplay.



kitler53 on 06 June 2016
Veknoid_Outcast said:
twintail said:

And a trailer that is just gameplay doesnt tell me how I interact with the game either. You would need a demo for that. A narrative driven trailer is there to highlight that said game will be narratively driven. 

and truth of the matter is that ppl have already shown that they are willing to pre-order early if they are interested in a game. The only ppl to blame are the countless of ppl willing to do it. 

An extended gameplay trailer can certainly give someone a good sense of how the game plays. Sure, you can't feel the rumble in your palms or the weight and agility of each character, but it's pretty darn close. A demo, of course, is best, but those are becoming less and less common - again, because publishers want us on the hook before we ever get our hands on the game.

And you're right: we as consumers are complicit. We enable companies to take advantage of us.

oh dear god man,.. this is an RPG and story is a massive part of the genre.  this is the first and only story trailer.  this game was announced with a live gameplay demo.  it was followed up with an extended gameplay trailer.  to date we've only have gameplay trailers and no story.  a trailer focused on the story is long overdue and necessary for those of us that enjoy the story elements of a game.  please just stop derailing this thread about horizon with your rant about the state of the industry.

 

OT - trailer was amazing.  love seening mounts are confirmed by this trailer.



GribbleGrunger on 06 June 2016

edit: misunderstood.



 

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Veknoid_Outcast on 06 June 2016
REDZONE said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

No need to be passive-aggressive. If you disagree with my perspective, I'd like to hear how and why. I'm happy to have a respectful conversation with you.

OK cool.Last year they showed a demo of the game showing mechanics and other elements,we didn't really know the story(we still don't)then.I think it is only fair(my opinion of course)that this trailer was appropriate and should be given some slack,for not showing gameplay.

Yeah, the gameplay we saw last year looked really good. I included it among the top 10 trailers of E3.

That's why I was so bummed that in this three-minute trailer we got zero gameplay. I want to see more of what I saw in 2015. It's entirely possible that we'll see new gameplay footage at E3, so I can definitely look forward to that. 

But, in general, as I wrote above, I treat story trailers like this with a fair amount of suspicion. 

Anyway, I certainly didn't intend to drag the conversation off course or take away from the excitment of a release date. Here's hoping Sony's E3 will be a knock-out :)