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You take out the Middle class, you destroy America. It's been happening for a while. First China, and now Robots. The Last thing we need is less money circulating in the US. This is gonna kill us thinking this way. Thinking of the cheapest way to do things. It is because of this thought process that America's dollar will eventually become useless and America as a nation will diminish. I HATE to say things like this but it's economics.



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AbbathTheGrim said:
I wonder if countries will eventually pass legislation to control companies from replacing people with robots.

why this is great news? robots should work for us isnt this what humanity always dreamed of ?



animegaming said:
you know US government if you really want to create more jobs outlawing this could really help with that.

outlawing human progress?

shikamaru317 said:
I agree that most fast food workers aren't good enough employees to justify that kind of raise (many aren't even good enough workers to justify what they're making now), but you can't go replacing them with robots. Unemployment would go through the roof, the US fast food industry currently employs over 3 million workers afaik.

there is always social welfare, maybe the US goverment should rather tax MCdonalds more and give it to the workers who lost their jobs?



Nintation360 said:

Well then.... What about when they mess up?? Or someone drops their food?? a spill in the food court?? are robots gonna clean those things? There's many things Robots cant do.  

McDonald's at peak times (depending on the size of the store) can have 20+ people employed during a shift.

What you just described is job usually given to just one person.



The smart thing to do is replace the overpaid CEO with an automated device that can make decisions based on historical market trends. This way you cut the CEO out of payroll with a $20,000 smart ass computer and keep the people down the ladder that are actually producing revenue for the company.



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Ljink96 said:
You take out the Middle class, you destroy America. It's been happening for a while. First China, and now Robots. The Last thing we need is less money circulating in the US. This is gonna kill us thinking this way. Thinking of the cheapest way to do things. It is because of this thought process that America's dollar will eventually become useless and America as a nation will diminish. I HATE to say things like this but it's economics.

This is literally what made United States the economic powerhouse it is.

It's the way that you're thinking that will destroy the middle class.



loy310 said:
The smart thing to do is replace the overpaid CEO with an automated device that can make decisions based on historical market trends. This way you cut the CEO out of payroll with a $20,000 smart ass computer and keep the people down the ladder that are actually producing revenue for the company.

A CEO's salary is almost worth nothing compared to the rest of the employees expenses so the opposite is far more sensible ... 

If we all adopted that thought process we may as well have the $20,000 smart ass computers doing our stock exchange instead ... 

At least we can sue humans compared to robots ... 



SamuelRSmith said:
Ljink96 said:
You take out the Middle class, you destroy America. It's been happening for a while. First China, and now Robots. The Last thing we need is less money circulating in the US. This is gonna kill us thinking this way. Thinking of the cheapest way to do things. It is because of this thought process that America's dollar will eventually become useless and America as a nation will diminish. I HATE to say things like this but it's economics.

This is literally what made United States the economic powerhouse it is.

It's the way that you're thinking that will destroy the middle class.

Are you insane!!! It is because American companies finding cheaper employment for their own financial gains that we've been in this crisis for so long. You can't expect that to benefit all americans, it only benefits a small few. It's pure economics. You take jobs away from people to make a quick buck and leave others without employment, the middle class. If the middle class americans aren't working then america is screwed. The poor don't account for income and the rich are too greedy and avoid taxes. It's a recipie for freaking disaster. What made the US an economic powerhouse was the automotive industry that boomed after WWII. Where things were made in America and Americans bought our own products. What's happening is, people are becoming greedy, American Greed, and finding ways to make cars cheaper overseas and thus taking money out of the US circulation.

You can't expect something to stand strong if you're putting in little and always expecting a lot. That principle only works for so long. Read up on economics and what really happened to put America into its current sorry state. Useless wars inside and out and greed: Carrier for example, are what put America where we are now. We're trillions in debt, our petrodollar is dying, and we're told everything is okay and it really isn't. Not wanting to pay Americans to do work just because you can find a place where you can get labor done cheaper sounds good to a business but to a country that used to rely on that income to remain an economic powerhouse...it sounds like bullshit. And it is.



Ljink96 said:

Are you insane!!! It is because American companies finding cheaper employment for their own financial gains that we've been in this crisis for so long. You can't expect that to benefit all americans, it only benefits a small few. It's pure economics. You take jobs away from people to make a quick buck and leave others without employment, the middle class. If the middle class americans aren't working then america is screwed. The poor don't account for income and the rich are too greedy and avoid taxes. It's a recipie for freaking disaster. What made the US an economic powerhouse was the automotive industry that boomed after WWII. Where things were made in America and Americans bought our own products. What's happening is, people are becoming greedy, American Greed, and finding ways to make cars cheaper overseas and thus taking money out of the US circulation.

You can't expect something to stand strong if you're putting in little and always expecting a lot. That principle only works for so long. Read up on economics and what really happened to put America into its current sorry state. Useless wars inside and out and greed: Carrier for example, are what put America where we are now. We're trillions in debt, our petrodollar is dying, and we're told everything is okay and it really isn't. Not wanting to pay Americans to do work just because you can find a place where you can get labor done cheaper sounds good to a business but to a country that used to rely on that income to remain an economic powerhouse...it sounds like bullshit. And it is.

Cheaper employment = lower prices so all of us will see financial gains regardless ... 

It's the middle class that needs to rethink their value, who said capitalism wasn't going to bring in a vicious cycle of poor and rich ? 

Greed is an issue since a lot of big US companies are keeping the cash rather than investing it for some reason ... 



Ljink96 said:
SamuelRSmith said:

This is literally what made United States the economic powerhouse it is.

It's the way that you're thinking that will destroy the middle class.

Are you insane!!! It is because American companies finding cheaper employment for their own financial gains that we've been in this crisis for so long. You can't expect that to benefit all americans, it only benefits a small few. It's pure economics. You take jobs away from people to make a quick buck and leave others without employment, the middle class. If the middle class americans aren't working then america is screwed. The poor don't account for income and the rich are too greedy and avoid taxes. It's a recipie for freaking disaster. What made the US an economic powerhouse was the automotive industry that boomed after WWII. Where things were made in America and Americans bought our own products. What's happening is, people are becoming greedy, American Greed, and finding ways to make cars cheaper overseas and thus taking money out of the US circulation.

You can't expect something to stand strong if you're putting in little and always expecting a lot. That principle only works for so long. Read up on economics and what really happened to put America into its current sorry state. Useless wars inside and out and greed: Carrier for example, are what put America where we are now. We're trillions in debt, our petrodollar is dying, and we're told everything is okay and it really isn't. Not wanting to pay Americans to do work just because you can find a place where you can get labor done cheaper sounds good to a business but to a country that used to rely on that income to remain an economic powerhouse...it sounds like bullshit. And it is.

I find myself agreeing with this. We are a powerhouse through exploitation. The people are getting fed up, which is reflected in who our primary candidates are for president. People want change, the kind that Obama failed to deliver on. A shit storm has been brewing for decades, beyond the likes of the Great Depression. It's by these ideas that I believe the government chooses to spy on its people - out of paranoia for revolt. The 99% is a sleeping giant and we are on the brink of waking. There's no way around it, the American brand of capitalism is a failure and the longer we try and flesh it out, the worse off things will get for the overwhelming majority of us. I am convinced, based on how wild and reckless my generation is, that a major war is brewing on a civil level. I think it's just a matter of waiting for the right catalyst. I hate to say it but I think our best hope for President is Bernie. Time will tell.