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Forums - Politics Discussion - Can somebody give me a crash course on Anarchism?

I've been trying to get to know the Anarchist movement for some time now, but I can't seem to get a few things straight.

I've been watching videos on Youtube and such, so I do get the basics, but details continue to be sketchy, because whenever I bring up any sort of mild criticism or otherwise don't immediately worship the ideology as perfect, no anarchist ever reacts in any way other than calling me an "indoctrinated statist sheep" and disengaging from the conversation.

So, anybody who has some kind of insight into this, can you give me a quick rundown? How do they want to abolish hierarchy, how does an anarchist system deals with conflict resolution and/or law enforcement, etc.

Thanks.



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Well there are different kinds of anarchists. Some are the stereotypical kind that want to destabilize society and tear it apart. Most, however, seem motivated by things like socioeconomic fairness, environmental concerns and MD veganism, racism and homophobia, equality not only of opportunity like what we have in America buy an even stronger kind of equality l-equality of fact.



Robtommy34 said:
Well there are different kinds of anarchists. Some are the stereotypical kind that want to destabilize society and tear it apart. Most, however, seem motivated by things like socioeconomic fairness, environmental concerns and MD veganism, racism and homophobia, equality not only of opportunity like what we have in America buy an even stronger kind of equality l-equality of fact.

Yeah, anarchy must be great for fairness



Check the various anarchism subreddits. They give the best introductions to each style. There are so many flavors of anarchism that anything anybody tells you of one is not true for the other.

I personally consider myself an individualist anarchist who has rejected the Labor Theory of Value and has accepted marginalism. Basically I identify with Lysander Spooner, but with some more modern influences on his economic thought (basically STV and marginalism prove wage-labor is not exploitation.) Some anarchists consider Spooner an anarchist, while some consider him only an anti-statist/non-archist with anarchist influences (he isn't left-wing/anti-capitalist/anti-propertarian enough for them.) I find his propertarianism appealing, as I don't accept "occupation and use" property models and rather accept lockean property rights, like Spooner. Some anarchists (egoists of the Stirner variety) have a power-based property model." I own what I can keep by force" is their way about doing things.

Then in social anarchism you have a huge difference between anarcho-communists and mutualists, for example. Usually they all want socialism, but they want different methods of socialism. For example, mutualists like market-socialism while ancoms like a planned gift economy with or without labor vouchers depending on whom you ask.

So it is really complicated. There are as many forms of anarchism as there are forms of states. The only thing consistent is that each philosophy pushes their idea of freedom from rulers and "hierarchies."



I personally fall on the anarcho-capitalist/crypto-anarchist/agorist part of the spectrum.

There's some good talks out and about on Youtube, if interested check out Tom Woods, Jeffrey Tucker, Bob Murphy, and Walter Block. Between them they cover all kinds of things like regulation, environmental protection, military, law and order, among other things, and how such things *may* work in an ancap society.



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SamuelRSmith said:
I personally fall on the anarcho-capitalist/crypto-anarchist/agorist part of the spectrum.

There's some good talks out and about on Youtube, if interested check out Tom Woods, Jeffrey Tucker, Bob Murphy, and Walter Block. Between them they cover all kinds of things like regulation, environmental protection, military, law and order, among other things, and how such things *may* work in an ancap society.

Yes, I forgot to mention that sometimes I do get this answer, too.

Question: How do you do X?

Answer: Go watch a Youtuber with a 1,000 uploaded videos.

Question: How about answering the question?

Answer: Just go watch this 2-hour video!



Psychotic said:

Yes, I forgot to mention that sometimes I do get this answer, too.

Question: How do you do X?

Answer: Go watch a Youtuber with a 1,000 uploaded videos.

Question: How about answering the question?

Answer: Just go watch this 2-hour video!

You are the one who showed interest in the topic, I'm not trying to convince you. You have an interest, I've shown you where you can find the answers you are looking for.

Why would you want answers from me, when there's dedicated philosophers, economists, historians, who have produced answers to every possible question you could have?

You're either looking for real answers to your questions, which those guys have, or you're looking for a debate of some kind. If it's the latter, I'm not interested because it doesn't prove anything.



There are A LOT of different views and different types of anarchism. Even though most people discredit it, wikipedia is a nice and organized placed to see what each branch is about, and from there you Could just check an author and read some of their books.

I personally consider myself in the individualist type. Most important thing is to get rid of preconcieved ideas such as "anarchists throw Stones at the Police" that most people have and also, consider that some are part of social movements and others are schools of though that give you an "anarchist stance" even if you are not using violence against the system



pastro243 said:
There are A LOT of different views and different types of anarchism. Even though most people discredit it, wikipedia is a nice and organized placed to see what each branch is about, and from there you Could just check an author and read some of their books.

I personally consider myself in the individualist type. Most important thing is to get rid of preconcieved ideas such as "anarchists throw Stones at the Police" that most people have and also, consider that some are part of social movements and others are schools of though that give you an "anarchist stance" even if you are not using violence against the system

In before someone complains about having to go read/watch something else, rather than be told all the nuances of every facet of Anarchism.



SamuelRSmith said:

You are the one who showed interest in the topic, I'm not trying to convince you. You have an interest, I've shown you where you can find the answers you are looking for.

Why would you want answers from me, when there's dedicated philosophers, economists, historians, who have produced answers to every possible question you could have?

You're either looking for real answers to your questions, which those guys have, or you're looking for a debate of some kind. If it's the latter, I'm not interested because it doesn't prove anything.

I do want a debate of some kind, because what is important is what an average follower of an ideology thinks, not what the philosphers behind it thought. Every follower of an ideology should be able to answer basic questions about it - I can answer basic questions about why I'm an atheist, why I support the goverment, why I'm against the death penalty... I don't need to send you to philosphers and Youtubers, I can answer it in two sentences and if you don't understand and are still interested, I can elaborate. Why can't anarchists do this?

I learn through debates. I learn through hearing and thinking about people's arguments. Not by reading 1000-page books or listenting to 100 hours of Youtube videos with no feedback. If you're not interested in explaining your stances, that's fine. Don't. But also don't send me to your bigger mates.