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GribbleGrunger on 17 January 2016

Are you guys saying there will be a 1.6m gap on top of the 1.3m gap with year? I think the gap will be 2.8m by January 2017.



 

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DonFerrari on 17 January 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Are you guys saying they're will be a 1.6m gap on top of the 1.3m gap with year? I think the gap will be 2.8m by January 2017.

Basically this. the gap rate have been growing. 200k Y13 (Total 200k) 400k Y14 (600k) 800K Y15 (1.4M) 1.6M Y16 (3M)... would be quite hard, but who knows.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

GribbleGrunger on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:

Nah. The doubling was just a coincidence of the numbers. The two were released during the holidays in 2013, and the PS4 just had a bigger launch. In 2014 the gap was actually about 1022k by the end of October, but the surprise (an initially announced as temporary) price cut for the XBO in November narrowed the gap substantially. This year the gap was less than it could have been because the XBO was at $50 below parity for the first three quarters of the year. For the Q1-Q3 period of 2015, the gap was 374k, while in the same period in 2014 the gap was nearly 900k. Assuming the PS4 and XBO remain at parity for the whole year, then the gap should be at least a million by year's end, but it probably won't be anywhere close to 1.6 million.

Really? You think the gap will be 1.6m by the end of 2016?





 

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DonFerrari on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
Are you guys saying they're will be a 1.6m gap on top of the 1.3m gap with year? I think the gap will be 2.8m by January 2017.

Nah. The doubling was just a coincidence of the numbers. The two were released during the holidays in 2013, and the PS4 just had a bigger launch. In 2014 the gap was actually about 1022k by the end of October, but the surprise (an initially announced as temporary) price cut for the XBO in November narrowed the gap substantially. This year the gap was less than it could have been because the XBO was at $50 below parity for the first three quarters of the year. For the Q1-Q3 period of 2015, the gap was 374k, while in the same period in 2014 the gap was nearly 900k. Assuming the PS4 and XBO remain at parity for the whole year, then the gap should be at least a million by year's end, but it probably won't be anywhere close to 1.6 million.

So little off-topic, do you think every week will be over 200k and every month over 1M?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:
DonFerrari said:

So little off-topic, do you think every week will be over 200k and every month over 1M?

You mean global PS4 sales? Now that the system has gotten a price cut, over 200k per week every week this year is certainly a possibility.

Yes, WW, that is why I said it was a little off-topic.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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GribbleGrunger on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:

Not for the year. It should be over a million, but 1.6M seems a bit high. I'll have to see how things stand by the end of Q1. The LTD gap will be well over two million, though.

We're still talking about just the U.S., right?

I'm really confused about what you think will happen. The gap is currently around 1.4m in the US and still growing. I think the gap will be at least 2.5m by the end of the year.





 

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barneystinson69 on 17 January 2016

Just wondering, anything on Halo 5 LTD in the US?



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

DonFerrari on 17 January 2016
barneystinson69 said:

Just wondering, anything on Halo 5 LTD in the US?

13# on the year rank and 10# for releases of 2015 so you can do your math.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

aLkaLiNE on 17 January 2016
GribbleGrunger said:
Shadow1980 said:

Not for the year. It should be over a million, but 1.6M seems a bit high. I'll have to see how things stand by the end of Q1. The LTD gap will be well over two million, though.

We're still talking about just the U.S., right?

I'm really confused about what you think will happen. The gap is currently around 1.4m in the US and still growing. I think the gap will be at least 2.5m by the end of the year.

 

He's saying the gap for this year alone probably won't reach 1.6 million. You agree with him by saying the Ltd gap will be 2.5 million (where he predicts greater than 2 million)



GribbleGrunger on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:

The PS4 will sell at least a million more units in the U.S. in 2016 than the XBO. The lifetime U.S. gap will be at least ~2.4 million by the end of this year.

Ah, now I understand lol. I'm sticking with my 2.8m gap prediction, although with the incredible lineup and games like Uncharted 4, I think it could top 3m.





 

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