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zero129 said:

Maybe cos even after it was explained to you why japan ports get a bad rep on pc, you still tried to make it look like it was cos they are worse then the console versions when thats not the case.. How exactly is that an opinion??

Also I couldn't help but notice this piece with the piece towards the end that had compeltely nothing to do with this article:

"Yeah if you have a pc and ps4 and want the best version of these Japanese games,  the ps4 is often the best to get.  All in all great news.  So happy to console games coming to PC and pc games coming to console."

So in essence it's like saying "For Japanese games get them on PS4 regardless because that's the best place to play them, don't bother with PC because they are cheap cash grab seriously awful ports. But it's nice we're getting PC games as well" without hinting at all that consoles can get bad ports or simply can't handle them. So I'm left wondering, if that's all that's been said then where does PC get the leg up in all of that quote?, because as far as I can see that quote is pointing towards PS4 2- PC 0.

And yet I'm seeing things differently like some others are (you for instance, myself, SC4597).



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YES YES YES!

This is one of the few Ps4 exclusives I was interested on, love to see it coming to steam!



Oh wow, really did not see this coming. But yes could mean many japanese games thought to be exclusive on a console will go to steam too.



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Chazore said:
zero129 said:
 

Maybe cos even after it was explained to you why japan ports get a bad rep on pc, you still tried to make it look like it was cos they are worse then the console versions when thats not the case.. How exactly is that an opinion??

Also I couldn't help but notice this piece with the piece towards the end that had compeltely nothing to do with this article:

"Yeah if you have a pc and ps4 and want the best version of these Japanese games,  the ps4 is often the best to get.  All in all great news.  So happy to console games coming to PC and pc games coming to console."

So in essence it's like saying "For Japanese games get them on PS4 regardless because that's the best place to play them, don't bother with PC because they are cheap cash grab seriously awful ports. But it's nice we're getting PC games as well" without hinting at all that consoles can get bad ports or simply can't handle them. So I'm left wondering, if that's all that's been said then where does PC get the leg up in all of that quote?, because as far as I can see that quote is pointing towards PS4 2- PC 0.

And yet I'm seeing things differently like some others are (you for instance, myself, SC4597).


Holy shit.  Just read through what you said.  Is this a war for you guys?  Because it sure as hell looks like you take it personally.  

 

I made a comment I believed to be true.  I'm on gaf and that's the general consensus.  I will have you know there's evidence that many pc ports are very badly done by Japanese devs although I probably jumped the gun.  and yes gaf has a hive mind so it's easy to see why I thought it was worse than it is.  They like to exaggerate.  

 

But jesus don't make it personal and attack me.  Just step back from the whole console war because it's not worth it.  we are gamers after all right?  It's supposed to be fun. 



OneKartVita said:



Holy shit.  Just read through what you said.  Is this a war for you guys?  Because it sure as hell looks like you take it personally.  

That's more or less you taking it personally here.

I made a comment I believed to be true.  I'm on gaf and that's the general consensus.  I will have you know there's evidence that many pc ports are very badly done by Japanese devs although I probably jumped the gun.  and yes gaf has a hive mind so it's easy to see why I thought it was worse than it is.  They like to exaggerate.  

And I will have you know Gaf isn't the planet's gospel of factual pc news. Also I watch many PC players, sites as well that all do benchmarks and I'm still seeing some good Japanese ports which in turn end up singling out those that are known for the shit ports. The fact they jump the gun a lot (and are known as video game whistle blowers) is why I hardly take their information as being wholly correct until the time comes to pass.

But jesus don't make it personal and attack me.  Just step back from the whole console war because it's not worth it.  we are gamers after all right?  It's supposed to be fun. 

I'm not taking it personally though, I like zero and others who are PC players (ones that are deep in PC gaming and the know how to go with it) were just pointing out that you seemed to go with misinformation and still stuck with it until just now where you admitted the site you took info from jumps the gun now and then, I don't use a game site to form such information, instead I look through various sites, youtubers who are PC gamers/builders like Linus, Tek Syndicate, Levelcap, DudeRandom84, CultofMush etc.

End of the day we are supposed to have fun but we're also supposed to stand for rectifying common misconceptions.





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Chazore said:

OneKartVita said:

 


Holy shit.  Just read through what you said.  Is this a war for you guys?  Because it sure as hell looks like you take it personally.  

That's more or less you taking it personally here.

I made a comment I believed to be true.  I'm on gaf and that's the general consensus.  I will have you know there's evidence that many pc ports are very badly done by Japanese devs although I probably jumped the gun.  and yes gaf has a hive mind so it's easy to see why I thought it was worse than it is.  They like to exaggerate.  

And I will have you know Gaf isn't the planet's gospel of factual pc news. Also I watch many PC players, sites as well that all do benchmarks and I'm still seeing some good Japanese ports which in turn end up singling out those that are known for the shit ports. The fact they jump the gun a lot (and are known as video game whistle blowers) is why I hardly take their information as being wholly correct until the time comes to pass.

But jesus don't make it personal and attack me.  Just step back from the whole console war because it's not worth it.  we are gamers after all right?  It's supposed to be fun. 

 

I'm not taking it personally though, I like zero and others who are PC players (ones that are deep in PC gaming and the know how to go with it) were just pointing out that you seemed to go with misinformation and still stuck with it until just now where you admitted the site you took info from jumps the gun now and then, I don't use a game site to form such information, instead I look through various sites, youtubers who are PC gamers/builders like Linus, Tek Syndicate, Levelcap, DudeRandom84, CultofMush etc.

End of the day we are supposed to have fun but we're also supposed to stand for rectifying common misconceptions.




You can correct il informed people like me peacefully without getting hostile.  



OneKartVita said:




You can correct il informed people like me peacefully without getting hostile.  

Yes you totally can but lets not hang too much onto that which isn't the main part of the topic here (3rd time you've focused on it btw).



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

zero129 said:
OneKartVita said:
Chazore said:




You can correct il informed people like me peacefully without getting hostile.  

Personally its like you took hostility in that wich the is none..

You said best place to play multi plat japan games is PS4 That is a personal opinion. However going on to then say The reason for that being is that PC versions are worse is not an opinion, and is instead putting off a misconception you got from gaf as a fact.

When it was pointed out to you that wasnt the case, and most users rate japan ports badly not cos they are broken, But for them being in a lot of cases the exact same as the console version they came from.

Instead of admiting to your ill informed information like you just said and moving on, you go on to repeat that ill informed information once again. After being called out on this the 2nd time you then pull the victem card and try saying people are getting hostile with you.

Clearly this seems more like someone that was trying to push the ill informed information, then a user that was himself ill informed.

But anyways apples under the tree better to leave it be, lets all just be happy that PC is getting so much japan love lately .

Here we go again.  Do you guys pick on everyone like this who gets something wrong?  I admitted it but you guys can't admit you're being hostile and rude.  

 

I see now that gaf considers a straight port with no improvements to be bad by pc gamers and they're unhappy with the job Japanese publishers are doing.  Hence why people like me think they're bad.  

 

It's an honest mistake and I'm happy to hold my hands up and admit it.  Now if you wouldn't mind could you two start being nice again and stop being so hostile.  I never attacked either of you or disrespected either.  



OneKartVita said:
 

It's an honest mistake and I'm happy to hold my hands up and admit it.  Now if you wouldn't mind could you two start being nice again and stop being so hostile.  I never attacked either of you or disrespected either.  

But I'm not being hostile though. I'm not even remotely angered or mad at all here. I was merely trying to correct your misconception and you in turn wigged out and started spamming "stop being hostile, stop it". It's not that there was any disrespect paid, it's that you went head first into a subject you originally thought was fact without considering that other folk on here might just game on the platform and know more than you would, especially from someone like me who's entrenched in the PC community around various sites and media.

The thing is though, is that by constant claims of people who have different information and opinions than you are somehow "hostile", that itself being the focus here means we are drifting off topic and Zero has already pointed it out near the end of his say. I myself am done with the talk in general by going with what I'm saying currently, you are the only one here who is claiming hostility and making it your main focus and it's going absolutely no where. There is nothing to be gained if there was nothing there in the first place, I wasn't offended or attacked and neither was Zero and co, nor do I feel any sort of anger or resentment.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
OneKartVita said:
 

It's an honest mistake and I'm happy to hold my hands up and admit it.  Now if you wouldn't mind could you two start being nice again and stop being so hostile.  I never attacked either of you or disrespected either.  

But I'm not being hostile though. I'm not even remotely angered or mad at all here. I was merely trying to correct your misconception and you in turn wigged out and started spamming "stop being hostile, stop it". It's not that there was any disrespect paid, it's that you went head first into a subject you originally thought was fact without considering that other folk on here might just game on the platform and know more than you would, especially from someone like me who's entrenched in the PC community around various sites and media.

The thing is though, is that by constant claims of people who have different information and opinions than you are somehow "hostile", that itself being the focus here means we are drifting off topic and Zero has already pointed it out near the end of his say. I myself am done with the talk in general by going with what I'm saying currently, you are the only one here who is claiming hostility and making it your main focus and it's going absolutely no where. There is nothing to be gained if there was nothing there in the first place, I wasn't offended or attacked and neither was Zero and co, nor do I feel any sort of anger or resentment.


There's just no winning with you guys.  You all take this hobby way too seriously.  Giving us gamers a bad name.  I've had my say. I admitted I was misguided,  now I'm going to leave this thread because it's very unwelcoming.  Peace.