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Snoopy said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

How exactly did you answer my question? Money is money. If those guys didn't care about foreign money they probanly wouldn't bother on PS4. So how exactly are those devs getting their money back on porting games to X1 when they could basically work on PS4/PC where the actual audience cared. Or have you forgotten about the split ratio of FF Type0 HD.

PS4 does make them money in Japan though. Besides, they aren't even all in on PS4 often having PS3/Vita versions as well. And so what if Type 0 didn't sell well? Ports rarely do as well as their originals and the original was a PSP game. And IMO it wasn't even a good game either.

More often than not any game with significant western appeal from Japanese publishers will still be multiplat, see FFXV/KH3/DSIII as examples. Some of the mid range games are getting Xbox ports as well if they are from a good publisher (such as Koei Tecmo and their Musou games). And as for the smaller stuff? Well that's lucky to even be getting localised in the first place.

FF type 0 sold/ship a million copies and the split ratios aren't exactly there for X1.

Exactly please tell me the japanese games coming to Xbox One as well. You seemed to have forgotten about other things.Digimon, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Heroes/Builders/XI/Star Ocean/Disgaea/AoT/SFV.

What exactly are those japanese multiplats that will sell significantly on X1? Not sure with it considering the discrepancy between PS4 and X1 are not exactly the same as PS360 gen.

Didn't say Japanese multiplats would sell significantly on Xbox One. I said those with significant western appeal will (or at least should) come to Xbox One as well. Out of those that you've listed SFV is the only one with any significant appeal in the west, but from what I understand was a moneyhat anyway so that kind of renders the point moot.

Exactly, all those jap games that hardly anyone in North America or Europe care about. Only street fighter 5. Microsoft probably could of fund their version of the game (capcom needed money to make the game), but they rather focus on their own fighting game (killer instinct). 

Your logic only speaks volumes against Xbox One and its inability to secure those "small, non 90 metacritic mid- budget Japanese games". They saw the sales ratio between PS4 and decided it just wasn't worth it. 



kurasakiichimaru said:
Snoopy said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

How exactly did you answer my question? Money is money. If those guys didn't care about foreign money they probanly wouldn't bother on PS4. So how exactly are those devs getting their money back on porting games to X1 when they could basically work on PS4/PC where the actual audience cared. Or have you forgotten about the split ratio of FF Type0 HD.

PS4 does make them money in Japan though. Besides, they aren't even all in on PS4 often having PS3/Vita versions as well. And so what if Type 0 didn't sell well? Ports rarely do as well as their originals and the original was a PSP game. And IMO it wasn't even a good game either.

More often than not any game with significant western appeal from Japanese publishers will still be multiplat, see FFXV/KH3/DSIII as examples. Some of the mid range games are getting Xbox ports as well if they are from a good publisher (such as Koei Tecmo and their Musou games). And as for the smaller stuff? Well that's lucky to even be getting localised in the first place.

FF type 0 sold/ship a million copies and the split ratios aren't exactly there for X1.

Exactly please tell me the japanese games coming to Xbox One as well. You seemed to have forgotten about other things.Digimon, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Heroes/Builders/XI/Star Ocean/Disgaea/AoT/SFV.

What exactly are those japanese multiplats that will sell significantly on X1? Not sure with it considering the discrepancy between PS4 and X1 are not exactly the same as PS360 gen.

Didn't say Japanese multiplats would sell significantly on Xbox One. I said those with significant western appeal will (or at least should) come to Xbox One as well. Out of those that you've listed SFV is the only one with any significant appeal in the west, but from what I understand was a moneyhat anyway so that kind of renders the point moot.

Exactly, all those jap games that hardly anyone in North America or Europe care about. Only street fighter 5. Microsoft probably could of fund their version of the game (capcom needed money to make the game), but they rather focus on their own fighting game (killer instinct). 

Your logic only speaks volumes against Xbox One and its inability to secure those "small, non 90 metacritic mid- budget Japanese games". They saw the sales ratio between PS4 and decided it just wasn't worth it. 


A lot of those small japanese games will have a hard time getting 70 or above on metacritic (see godzilla and jstars). Nobody buys them, hell hardly anyone buys them even on PS4. Bloodboorne according to this site hasn't even hit 2 million.



GameSpot sure is biased ( against Sony that is ).



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Snoopy said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:
Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

How exactly did you answer my question? Money is money. If those guys didn't care about foreign money they probanly wouldn't bother on PS4. So how exactly are those devs getting their money back on porting games to X1 when they could basically work on PS4/PC where the actual audience cared. Or have you forgotten about the split ratio of FF Type0 HD.

PS4 does make them money in Japan though. Besides, they aren't even all in on PS4 often having PS3/Vita versions as well. And so what if Type 0 didn't sell well? Ports rarely do as well as their originals and the original was a PSP game. And IMO it wasn't even a good game either.

More often than not any game with significant western appeal from Japanese publishers will still be multiplat, see FFXV/KH3/DSIII as examples. Some of the mid range games are getting Xbox ports as well if they are from a good publisher (such as Koei Tecmo and their Musou games). And as for the smaller stuff? Well that's lucky to even be getting localised in the first place.

FF type 0 sold/ship a million copies and the split ratios aren't exactly there for X1.

Exactly please tell me the japanese games coming to Xbox One as well. You seemed to have forgotten about other things.Digimon, Persona 5, Dragon Quest Heroes/Builders/XI/Star Ocean/Disgaea/AoT/SFV.

What exactly are those japanese multiplats that will sell significantly on X1? Not sure with it considering the discrepancy between PS4 and X1 are not exactly the same as PS360 gen.

Didn't say Japanese multiplats would sell significantly on Xbox One. I said those with significant western appeal will (or at least should) come to Xbox One as well. Out of those that you've listed SFV is the only one with any significant appeal in the west, but from what I understand was a moneyhat anyway so that kind of renders the point moot.

Exactly, all those jap games that hardly anyone in North America or Europe care about. Only street fighter 5. Microsoft probably could of fund their version of the game (capcom needed money to make the game), but they rather focus on their own fighting game (killer instinct). 

LMAo so you get t decide what games count to fit some biased narrative? If sales are so concerning no worries, PS4 is at 25.3 million. Whats your point? Ps4 has way more games then xbox period, you cant say Japanese gsames dont count...or games that dont sell big dont count, it sall adds up. Do you want ublishers only make Big AAA games and nothing else? Sony keeps supporting variety and not just AAA games....What big AAA game has MS released all year? 

 

Games only count in holidays, japanese games don't count and games that are not huge sellers don't count, what kind of twirsted argument is this? Early 2016 we get Ratchet, MLB the show and uncharted, alrady got bloodborne, The order this year, Until Daewn. We got infamous, Drive club, killzone..

Sunset, Killer instinct, heck even forza was not a big seler, Drive club outsold it.They don't count because they didn't sell well right? Only halo and gears are big sellers for MS, do none o their other games like KI, Ori, Suncet not count because they ddint sell? You can;t have it both ways bro. Again what has ME done all year? Nothing.

 

PS4 has way more indies as well.

 

MS has 2 remasters, sony 3......they both have remasters.

 

There is no way to spijn it, a quick google search, PS4 has way more games then MS period, more variety.



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Ka-pi96 said:
kurasakiichimaru said:

You listed DSIII.  Basically that's a game I don't see any appeal. Niche at best. Even Bloodborne outsold the console versions of DS2 in US and UK during the time of its release.

So? It may still be fairly niche in the west, but it has much more western appeal than most other Japanese games.

Yes but Japanese Devs wants people to buy games regardless if it's niche or not or it has western appeal. If those games with western appeal are being routed by PS4 sales then the rout will even be harder for games that are niche/has no western appeal.

 so basically the games will be on PS4 but XB1 does not. Yet we continue criticize PS4's library despite having a biggfer one than Xb1. You don't see many complaints here. Praise MS doing nothing but Halo, GoW or buy time exclusives that would come later to PS4. Heck the praises for XB1 doing indies are also coming despite Sony doing the much work on advertising them. For Sony, the media calls them for holding back while for Xbox One, the media is praising them for a burying the parity clause yet it still exists.



In general I think MS gets a free pass despite mediocre XB1. Nintendo is hated on despite the successful 3DS and unsuccessful VVii U. And Sony gets some hate for the unsuccessful Vita but not as much because of successful PS4.



 

Farsala said:
In general I think MS gets a free pass despite mediocre XB1. Nintendo is hated on despite the successful 3DS and unsuccessful VVii U. And Sony gets some hate for the unsuccessful Vita but not as much because of successful PS4.


Basically sums up white american media.



The US media is so far up MS and xbox ass, they act like big AAA games and holidays is all that matters, ignore World wide sales and act like S is all that matters. Ignore all the diversity, and mid range and indie games Sony keeps pushing to go along with big AA games. Why does a game released in MArch not count? The Holiday list war is the single most embarassing thign I have seen in console wars. It's pure despration

not surprising it's the FANS OF THE console that only released games this year in the holiday that bring this up.



Farsala said:
In general I think MS gets a free pass despite mediocre XB1. Nintendo is hated on despite the successful 3DS and unsuccessful VVii U. And Sony gets some hate for the unsuccessful Vita but not as much because of successful PS4.


This is the second time I've seen you told "vv" instead of "w"!  What gives?