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Final-Fan on 15 March 2008

ItsaMii: It's SUPPOSED to be simple. Is it that hard for everyone to read the introduction?

Kasz216: I has an edit. (see above)



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Sqrl on 15 March 2008

This is a political topic and my post garnered two responses, both of which were in agreement.


Do I win the thread? Seriously thats gotta be an internet record or something.
To Each Man, Responsibility
Final-Fan on 15 March 2008
Sqrl said:
This is a political topic and my post garnered two responses, both of which were in agreement.

Do I win the thread? Seriously thats gotta be an internet record or something.
Since libertarianism is involved, and your post is not virulently pro- or anti-libertarian, and the agreers are also not such, then:

Yes, I'd say that is a Win measuring at least 0.4-0.6 Epics.

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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

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Tavin on 15 March 2008
DKII said:
I always judge a party by its extremes!

 I really think that's a very good way of judging this kind of things



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steven787 on 15 March 2008

Moderate libertarianism? Never heard of it. If you water down libertarianism you either end up as a Republican (less government in business), a Democrat (less in your personal life), or a moderate (a little more here, a little less there).

Non-revolutionary Socialism evolved from Socialism/Communism because there were no viable labor/mass parties before it's existence in many nations. (These were also backed as a way to introduce communist ideas)


Libertarianism evolved from moderate political skews into an anarcho-capitalist revolutionary movement, so the moderate forms already existed.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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rocketpig on 15 March 2008
steven787 said:

Moderate libertarianism? Never heard of it. If you water down libertarianism you either end up as a Republican (less government in business), a Democrat (less in your personal life), or a moderate (a little more here, a little less there).

Non-revolutionary Socialism evolved from Socialism/Communism because there were no viable labor/mass parties before it's existence in many nations. (These were also backed as a way to introduce communist ideas)


Libertarianism evolved from moderate political skews into an anarcho-capitalist revolutionary movement, so the moderate forms already existed.


You pretend as if it's completely impossible to believe in the fiscal responsibility of conservatives and the social freedom of liberals at the same time. Boil it down and you've got yourself a moderate Libertarian, which isn't that far from a classic Republican before the party went and found God.




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TheRealMafoo on 15 March 2008
Tavin said:
DKII said:
I always judge a party by its extremes!

 I really think that's a very good way of judging this kind of things


Extreme Americans bomb buildings (Oklahoma City). Extreme Christians murdered woman under the banner of being witches. Extreme Muslims want all western life ended. 

The fringe extreme for any group should never the the benchmark in which we measure everyone from that group. 



Final-Fan on 15 March 2008

I'm gonna have to agree with rocketpig on this one, except that the old Republican Party had a strong tradition of early environmentalism, whereas I have never heard libertarians espouse such policies. Also, trust-busting.



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Kasz216 on 15 March 2008
Final-Fan said:
I'm gonna have to agree with rocketpig on this one, except that the old Republican Party had a strong tradition of early environmentalism, whereas I have never heard libertarians espouse such policies. Also, trust-busting.

There is a reason Teddy Roosevelt is my favorite President. That mustache. It rules.

Well and the above stuff.

Maybe I should join the "Bull Moose" party.



Final-Fan on 15 March 2008
TheRealMafoo said:
Tavin said:
DKII said:
I always judge a party by its extremes!
I really think that's a very good way of judging this kind of things
Extreme Americans bomb buildings (Oklahoma City). Extreme Christians murdered woman under the banner of being witches. Extreme Muslims want all western life ended. 

The fringe extreme for any group should never the the benchmark in which we measure everyone from that group.
Right, but on the other hand, we lump nonviolent KKK members in with violent KKK members. Saying that ALL who oppose abortion (for example) can be judged with those who bomb abortion clinics is obviously wrong, but if you associate with people who advocate the bombing of clinics or say it is not a bad thing to do, and support groups that do that, then you DO have some guilt by association even if you don't personally bomb clinics or approve of doing it.

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