Also to say the frontal lobe isn't important seems a bit disengenious when you consider that things like ambition and impulse control are controled there.

Heck, look what happened to Phinneus Gage.  Nowhere near the same level, but it shows that the frontal lobe is quite important.

If you want to argue that ADHD isn't a problem, that's a whole different arguement from whether or not the Frontal Lobe is important.

When it comes to ADHD the inactivity in the frontal lobe isn't anything like that of marijuana use. The inactivity in the frontol lobe of ADHD is primarily located in only a small section of the frontal lobe.

 Whoa, whoa. Let me be perfectly clear about this. Although I believe marijuana should be legalized I am not recommending its usage to anybody, just like I wouldn't recommend smoking or drinking. Whether you want to use it or not is a decision which is up to you. You decide if the benefits justify the costs or not. If you decide to try it I recommend you use it responsibly and safely.

  There is nothing at all wrong with abstaining from drug use.

 Theres a reason why my tone changed from internet lollery to serious.

I think arguments against the relatively harmless drugs are silly considering the extremely harmful drugs that cause SERIOUS damage and even some pharmaceutical drugs that also cause far more damage than marijuana. I find it so silly that I do not care to develop a serious well written argument to it. I write in a style that reflects a similar level of intelligence as what I am arguing against.

On the other hand when things got derailed onto the frontal lobe/ADD topic I felt the need to actually argue about it. I feel that people are horribly misinformed about it. Schools push the medications because it makes dealing with the kids easier, so people tend to only understand one side of the story.  The schools could also work with the kids and develop their strengths, but doing such would involve a large investment of time and resources. But it is done when parents fight the schools and make them create a 504 plan for the student.

 Sometimes weed is laced with it(PCP). This is actually one of the reasons why I believe it should be legal, so the government can regulate it to eliminate the risk of having your relatively harmless herb laced with something very harmful.

 I've accidentally smoked it and immediately noticed the difference. It's not pretty, especially since its effects will take you by surprise.

I would agree that ADHD could have some beneficial effects. I don't know if I agree with you assessment of it being like static though. As far as I have seen it is better to think of an ADHD mind like a computer. The theory I have found most accurate says that an ADHD brain can only process a single thing at a time (which is how every computer works) where as your typical brain will take in multiple things at once. This has its benefits and side effects of course, and any job where random whatnot can happen would make the easily distracted (single track) brain a lot better because it won't habituate as quickly to whatever is happening. Not having first hand experience though I can hardly put my ideas over someone with first hand experience.

That is an interesting tidbit about the creativity though. I had not heard about that previously and does make me curious about a few things. I mostly deal with treatment rather than biology so random facts like that always intrigue me. I'll see if I can dg up some studies about the prevalence of ADHD amongst artists and the like. If not I might have to try and pitch the idea and see if there is any interest.

I feel I should clarify one point though. I am not for blindly medicating anyone diagnosed with ADHD. Most of the time I am talking about ADHD it is in the context that I help research which is with elementary school children mostly. So when I start talking about treating it I am almost exclusively talking about in young children who are having severe trouble in school. Outside of this scenario I am mostly ambivalent about it. Some of my favorite teachers, and smartest coworkers have ADHD and go unmedicated because thats just how they roll.

 RubangB - I found much to agree with in your post. This one line that I've picked out though is egregiously incorrect. I've had three friends OD in just the last year and more than a dozen over the last 30 years. It's very hard to die (impossible?) by itself from smoking too much marijuana. It's very easy to die from just a slight miscalculation in the dosage of heroin taken and almost impossible to tell because purity levels vary constantly. And don't get me started on that shit that was going around that was laced with fentanyl.

Ergo, heroin is a powerful CNS depressant that can shut down your entire cardiovascular system in seconds and lead to near instant death.

Anyways, you know, just saying. I did agree with the rest of your post.

If you are interested in the topic, search the internet for "the Edison trait"

Alright so it just comes from a difference in the definition of casual. I would say someone who smokes at most once or twice a week as a typical casual smoker, but this is also based on personal evidence. I can completey agree with your assessment if you use the terms that way though.

I can completely agree with this. Do not trust a school as far as you can throw the building. 1 out of every 3 cases we go through actually end up being diagnosed as ADHD. That is for the better schools at that honestly. Some of them seem to send every kid that talks in class off to be diagnosed with ADHD and medicated into zombies.

More on topic I feel it should be noted that there are some very good medical benefits to marijuana and some other illegal drugs. Marijuana is the best anti-naseau medicine I have ever seen. It can be used in low enough doses and in safe enough delivery methods that there is no permanent damage to the patient as well. Heck I saw one study where someone was claiming we should use it to treat ADHD (nice tie in there huh?). LSD was showing some very promising effects with schizophrenia before it was made illegal. Given LSD in its current form is far too unrefined to be used directly but it could be developed into a good drug. Having anything but the most dangerous of drugs made illegal can really hold back research.

i have nothing against alcohol or pot but there are a few problems with them

like some kids in my grade are to obsessed about doing it on the weekend, and a lot of kids move on to more drugs and get wrapped up in that world. Also i don't think anyone would complain about these 2 drugs if society was more responsible with them

I haven't done pot a lot but it has always been a fun time when i do it and once when i couldn't fall asleep i just lit up and that calmed me down a lot. Don't care much for drinking

Just remembered being high in our PSHE lessons (learn about drugs, sex, ... general fun) our teacher was teaching us about the effects of weed and half the class (all stoned) were all giggling, it was hilarious!