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JEMC said:

The card you have at work is a workstation card, mostly Nvidia Quadro. That doesn't count.

And to play games they are not a problem. 8GB are more than enough to play at 1080p or 1440p, and if you want to play at 4K... well, you'll probably run out of GPU power before those 8GB are the limiting factor.

We may get those kinds of VRAM amounts with HBM2.0 next year, tho.

The cards I use for work, as in, in my home system, are two Tesla K80s.



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Tachikoma said:
JEMC said:

The card you have at work is a workstation card, mostly Nvidia Quadro. That doesn't count.

And to play games they are not a problem. 8GB are more than enough to play at 1080p or 1440p, and if you want to play at 4K... well, you'll probably run out of GPU power before those 8GB are the limiting factor.

We may get those kinds of VRAM amounts with HBM2.0 next year, tho.

The cards I use for work, as in, in my home system, are two Tesla K80s.

They are workstation cards, it's not fair to compare them with consumer cards.

And isn't the K80 a dual GPU card? You still have "only" 12GB per GPU.



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JEMC said:

They are workstation cards, it's not fair to compare them with consumer cards.

And isn't the K80 a dual GPU card? You still have "only" 12GB per GPU.

Dual 12gb, effectively 2 K40s with some tuning, however applications can see and use the entire 24gb independantly, unlike standard gaming oriented dual gpu cards.



Tachikoma said:
JEMC said:

They are workstation cards, it's not fair to compare them with consumer cards.

And isn't the K80 a dual GPU card? You still have "only" 12GB per GPU.

Dual 12gb, effectively 2 K40s with some tuning, however applications can see and use the entire 24gb independantly, unlike standard gaming oriented dual gpu cards.

But with applications you aren't including games, right? Because that's one of the praised feature os DX12, to allow dual GPU cards or SLI/Xfire setups to share their memory pool.

And don't try to fool me, we're talking about gaming oriented GPUs. This gen we no longer had a card like the original Titan that was aimed at both sides thanks to its dual precission performance.



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JEMC said:

But with applications you aren't including games, right? Because that's one of the praised feature os DX12, to allow dual GPU cards or SLI/Xfire setups to share their memory pool.

And don't try to fool me, we're talking about gaming oriented GPUs. This gen we no longer had a card like the original Titan that was aimed at both sides thanks to its dual precission performance.

whos trying to fool you? i use my hardware primarilly for work, i consider high end gaming cards "cheap work cards", and thus i am dissapointed that theyre still holding out on memory.

I have two k80s in my workstation, had planned on getting four in a 1U, however if amd or nvidia released some high memory cheap cards it would make life a lot easier / cheaper, as such since they havent yet im dissapointed by the news.



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Tachikoma said:
JEMC said:

The card you have at work is a workstation card, mostly Nvidia Quadro. That doesn't count.

And to play games they are not a problem. 8GB are more than enough to play at 1080p or 1440p, and if you want to play at 4K... well, you'll probably run out of GPU power before those 8GB are the limiting factor.

We may get those kinds of VRAM amounts with HBM2.0 next year, tho.

The cards I use for work, as in, in my home system, are two Tesla K80s.


dang 10,000$+ for two of those badboys.

 

Im sure AMD can make some workstation type cards lateron... for people that need that sorta thing, but for gameing... yeah price points of 5000$ is too much, and a 24gb card would fine no use with any current gen game.

 

 

"Because that's one of the praised feature of DX12, to allow dual GPU cards or SLI/Xfire setups to share their memory pool."

 

^ this is actually a good point, about how with windows 10 and dx12, the memory will be shared (unlike how it is today).

4 way Crossfire would have access to 4x8gb = 32gb of ram.



Tachikoma said:
JEMC said:

But with applications you aren't including games, right? Because that's one of the praised feature os DX12, to allow dual GPU cards or SLI/Xfire setups to share their memory pool.

And don't try to fool me, we're talking about gaming oriented GPUs. This gen we no longer had a card like the original Titan that was aimed at both sides thanks to its dual precission performance.

whos trying to fool you? i use my hardware primarilly for work, i consider high end gaming cards "cheap work cards", and thus i am dissapointed that theyre still holding out on memory.

I have two k80s in my workstation, had planned on getting four in a 1U, however if amd or nvidia released some high memory cheap cards it would make life a lot easier / cheaper, as such since they havent yet im dissapointed by the news.

Fool me in the sense of moving the discussion from gaming cards and its use to play games, which is the point of these consumer cards, to talking about these cards performing professional or semi-professional duties. It's not fair.

If you want a consumer card that could suit your needs maybe you could find used Titan Blacks for "cheap" but, then again, those cards only had 6GB.



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Wccftech claims to have the real pricing of the 3xx series. I'll still consider it a rumor.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-confirmed-aggressive/

At least they are lower than the last rumor from sweclockers.



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Those prices look pretty amazing and good to be true, I hope they are real since those prices already cripple Nvidia's and would only cause Nvidia to try to do something else (hopefully lower theirs for once in their lives).



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Chazore said:
Those prices look pretty amazing and good to be true, I hope they are real since those prices already cripple Nvidia's and would only cause Nvidia to try to do something else (hopefully lower theirs for once in their lives).

I also hope they are real but I'm not so confident about how well they will sell. After all, the 290/290X have already been one sale for less than that (the 290X has gone on sale for close to $320) and failed to gain much attention compared to the GTX 970/980.

I hope the chips are not just rebrands and AMD has managed to improve the efficiency of Hawaii and the cards are faster, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Meanwhile, they keep teasing the Fiji cards



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