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joeorc said:

joeorc said:


Sorry but to date, there is no Phone's with PSvita Level Hardware that you can purchase for $70.00 For instance, there is many smartphones with Quad Core Arm Cortex A9's and Mali GPU 400's with Multiple Cores, which is quite true. But None of those Smartphones Has inside for that Mali or SGX GPU with 128MB of Dedicated Video Ram just for its GPU. The PSVita Does! And that is why you are not buying a Vita Level Hardware Smartphone for $70.00, because there is no such Smartphone! the only Handheld that comes close to that is the Nvidia shield, and in some ways Pass the PSVita, and the Nvidia Shield 2 out right Stomps the PSVIta. but as of right now, Hell the Fill Rate on the PSVita GPU is more than the PS3, yes the resolution is not as high on the PSVita, but consider the PSTv has the same chipset but upto 1080i its a freaking Hulking Arm Cortex SOC for its time.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/cheapest-android-4-4-5-0ins-octa-core-smart/231121740.html?utm_source=pla&utm_medium=GMC&utm_campaign=cloutronics&utm_term=231121740&f=bm%7c231121740%7c105001-CellPhones%7cGMC%7cAdwords%7cpla%7ccloutronics%7cUS%7c105001-CellPhones%7cc%7c%7c0HRF%7c&gclid=CjwKEAjw6Z2pBRCmvaXq6d7FjUoSJAAc5LrimfQjjEu5fxpoYfk20tMPBE9Z1q8oEOxOpmnoioSuNRoC8t3w_wcB

It is equiped with a MT6595 processor, which as a PowerVR G6200, which is about 76.8 GFLOPS at 600mhz. The Vita maxes at about 52 Gflops. Furthermore, it has 4GB of ram, which I think more than makes up for no dedicated Vram. 

While the price is $97 right now, I've seen it drop as low as $75 before. 

 

1st off MT Arm processors are not one of the best performance Processors out there, so they in fact rarely get to those listed Gflops/sec let alone sustain them.

also as for the PSVita maxing out @ 52 Gflops , You may want to do some more research

SGX 543 MP4 = 38.4 GFLOPS (triple core tho)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

A) the Speed of the SGX543MP4+ is more than 400 MHz

B)

http://www.chipworks.com/en/technical-competitive-analysis/resources/blog/sonys-ps-vita-uses-chip-on-chip-sip-3d-but-not-3d/z

C) since its a 3D stacked TSV its performance index is very..very High

That Smatphone you gave as an example i doubt very much is not going to outpace the PSVita's Performance index

again:

another example is the clock rate can indeed be pushing over 533 MHz, since sony has a SGX543MP4"+" being and increase clock rate, among other things you can take also as an index:

The Exynos variant of the Samsung Galaxy S4 sports the tri-core SGX544MP3 clocked at 533 MHz.

The series x5 Power VR GPU's were and still are some of the best GPU's that give a High Performance on Mobile SOC's..still even Today. Yes there is more powerful mobile chipsets than the PSVita, but many time the Costs are still High, and Again you would d@mn sight need to be on a contract for a mobile carrier to get it for 2 year contract, and thats still way more than $70.00

You realise that some MT chips, like the MT5327,  have the SG543 MP2. So that kind of contradicts your statement about MT chipsets. But here is an article about this chip in particular anyway. 

http://www.phonearena.com/news/MediaTeks-new-MT6595-octa-core-processor-scores-as-high-as-47000-on-AnTuTu-has-support-for-advanced-features_id58242

http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/mobile-communications/smartphone1/mt6595/

This is a very fast processor. It has 8 cores clocked at 600 Mhz each, and it topped AnTuTu for a period of time. Its GPU is a PowerVR G6200, which competes with the Adreno 330.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Imagination-PowerVR-G6200.129146.0.html

The only reason the phone I linked is so cheap is because it doesn't take advantage of the processor's abilities with certain features. Its resolution is only the same as the Vita's while this processor is designed for QHD resolutions, for example. Still, the core hardware without any fancy features to best/match the Vita's processor is less than $100 and can get as low as $70. 

As for the Vita's performance. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6426/ipad-4-gpu-performance-analyzed-powervr-sgx-554mp4-under-the-hood

PowerVR SGX 543MP4 - 38.4 GFLOPS

That's on the IPAD 3, the 52 GFLOP estimate considers the factors you mentioned, like Sony overclocking.

The VIta has an SGX 543MP4, by the way, not an SGX 544MP4. 



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probably be discontinued at the end of the year,in my humbled opinion.



As long as it's profitable and sales are enough to justify reserving to it at least one production line, Sony will keep on producing it. 1st and 3rd party SW production will depend on the number of active PSV users.



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the way its going,around 3 years but they should just kill it.its just not worth it.

i mean what does it do,there are no games and no apps

they should have made a phone with android which also plays game,not what it is