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true_fan said:
sabvre42 said:
But but but Sony has no games!

And... And... And... PC is still Microsoft ! (Even though they get $0 from licensing to put a game on Windows).

My goodness do you even realize what you just said.  So MSFT gets $0 from licensing,  so they are just giving games away free according to you.  This is starting to get ridiculous. 

 

As a developer, I can assure you that it costs me nothing to put an exe on the web. PC games give no money to MS other than VS unless published on the metro store.



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sabvre42 said:
true_fan said:
sabvre42 said:
But but but Sony has no games!

And... And... And... PC is still Microsoft ! (Even though they get $0 from licensing to put a game on Windows).

My goodness do you even realize what you just said.  So MSFT gets $0 from licensing,  so they are just giving games away free according to you.  This is starting to get ridiculous. 

 

As a developer, I can assure you that it costs me nothing to put an exe on the web. PC games give no money to MS other than VS unless published on the metro store.

You make no sense at all though, I'm talking about MSFT putting games like Fable Legends on the Windows store, I'm not worried about indie games.

PS even then, I just don't think anything will be allowed on the MSFT store for free.



Euphoria14 said:

Once again it is just smoke being blown up your ass. No idea why people have yet to catch on by now.

Phil Spencer said almost immediately that it wouldn't be anything major. Stop trying to act like it's big bad ms 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

kinisking said:
Euphoria14 said:

Once again it is just smoke being blown up your ass. No idea why people have yet to catch on by now.

Phil Spencer said almost immediately that it wouldn't be anything major. Stop trying to act like it's big bad ms 

He never even said that though, internet fans took Phil Spencer saying it wouldn't dramatically change graphics as it will do nothing, hence like the comments being displayed in this thread. For all we know dramatic could be 25% increase, in performance, but even 10-15% would be significant. Nope to certain fans not dramatic=0% increase for XB1.



Titanfall, TR, Ryse, etc....

These games are touted as MS exclusives, but MS get nothing from PC sales that happen outside of their own store.

Understand that unless it's published by MS themselves, a PC game is not a win for Xbox.

Anyways, on point: if dx12 was going to be a game changer.. xb would have probably waited in order to launch as the better console.

 

 



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true_fan said:
kinisking said:

Phil Spencer said almost immediately that it wouldn't be anything major. Stop trying to act like it's big bad ms 

He never even said that though, internet fans took Phil Spencer saying it wouldn't dramatically change graphics as it will do nothing, hence like the comments being displayed in this thread. For all we know dramatic could be 25% increase, in performance, but even 10-15% would be significant. Nope to certain fans not dramatic=0% increase for XB1.


I think some of the posters here are just done trusting MS when it comes to PR speak. How many different times in the past year have we heard of performance boosts to the X1? At this point its easy to misinterpret anything they have to say about efficiency and who it affects. (Cloud streaming, freeing up kinect resourced, SDK2.0, tiled resources, DX12, freeing up voice commands...) At this point theyve set themselves up for the snarky comments.



sabvre42 said:

Titanfall, TR, Ryse, etc....

These games are touted as MS exclusives, but MS get nothing from PC sales that happen outside of their own store.

Understand that unless it's published by MS themselves, a PC game is not a win for Xbox.

Anyways, on point: if dx12 was going to be a game changer.. xb would have probably waited in order to launch as the better console.

 

 

I know that, MSFT doesn't own those games.  PS didn;t you hear Phil Spencer say 1st party games on PC, those are the ones I'm talking about. MSFT will make money off those, of course I know they don''t make money on games that go on steam that they don't own.



Flamebait thread.

Its hard to imagine a purpose for this thread that isn't just goading Xbox users...

Locking.



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