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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 LTD Sales should be at least 140 Millions

Seventizz on 15 February 2015

I'm not buying a PS4 this gen so please minus 1 from your prediction.



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kinisking on 15 February 2015

ps4 wont outsell the ps2. Im certian.



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

BHR-3 on 15 February 2015
Imnus said:
BHR-3 said:

gaming aint as popular as it was during late 90s and early 2000s, i believe we'll get new HW sooner this gen and console gaming aint what it used to be in the west so stop comparing it to ps1 and 2s trends its gonna be tough for ps4 to get 20M+ ytd numbers let alone past 120M LT as seen predicted by many on here


I see people repeating this over and over, I've never seen any evidence that supports it though.


gaming was on the uprise then and not just in social media but in actual gameplay mechanics we were introduced to 3d worlds, open worlds, and online play with those introductions we also saw new gamplay mechanics, in the last half of last gen games were becoming copy and paste and repetitive so far with the 2 yrs of this gen no game had the effect that MGS1, RE4 GTA3, gears of war, uncharted and halo ect. did for there time



                                                             

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BHR-3 on 15 February 2015
Bofferbrauer said:
BHR-3 said:
PS4
 Launch Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 
Year 4 Year 5 Year 6 Year 7 Year 8 Year 9 Year 10
YTD 4M 14M 16M 17M 16M 14M 10M 6M 4M 2M 1M
LTD 4M 18M 34M 51M 67M 81M 91M 96M 100M 102M 103M

So here I predicted that PS4 would be around 18M (it was 18.5M) and the XONE would be 11M (it was 11M).

think it will barely make it past 100M with 100-110M

 

gaming aint as popular as it was during late 90s and early 2000s, i believe we'll get new HW sooner this gen and console gaming aint what it used to be in the west so stop comparing it to ps1 and 2s trends its gonna be tough for ps4 to get 20M+ ytd numbers let alone past 120M LT as seen predicted by many on here

That one's way more probable than the 140M prediction above. I still think even that one is aiming a bit high though, but mostly because I doubt on the longevity of the PS4, so the sales will probably degrade a bit sooner and more sharply. That's why I put the console on the 80 - 90 Millions Range saleswise, which is still very good.

b/c im a sony fan



                                                             

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TheGoldenBoy on 15 February 2015
Seventizz said:

I'm not buying a PS4 this gen so please minus 1 from your prediction.

So his prediction is now 139,999,999.



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slab_of_bacon on 15 February 2015

I doubt the Playstation 4 will outsell its predecessor.



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Imnus on 15 February 2015
BHR-3 said:
ps1 and 2 were also priced for 149 and less for a meaningful duration of its life, ps4 will not be priced below 199 thats another reason why it will not get past 120M and why the 360 and ps3 didnt make past 100M yet


If the PS3 it's pretty close to $200 ($220 right now) with Cell and it's ridiculously over engineering architecture, I don't understand how the PS4 with its modified off-the-shelf parts can't get lower than $200, I could see $100 being a stretch but $150 is easily achievable and much faster than the PS3 gets to $200.

Also while it's true that PS3 and 360 won't make it over 100M each, together they'll get over 180M. If you think PS4 "will barely make it past 100M" then PS4+XONE will barely make it past 150M-160M, do you even realize how insane this suggestion is, specially considering we're getting reports that console gaming is growing pretty much everywhere bar Japan.

 

BHR-3 said:
Imnus said:


I see people repeating this over and over, I've never seen any evidence that supports it though.


gaming was on the uprise then and not just in social media but in actual gameplay mechanics we were introduced to 3d worlds, open worlds, and online play with those introductions we also saw new gamplay mechanics, in the last half of last gen games were becoming copy and paste and repetitive so far with the 2 yrs of this gen no game had the effect that MGS1, RE4 GTA3, gears of war, uncharted and halo ect. did for there time

Are you suggesting that what you're saying here is evidence that gaming isn't as popular as it was during late 90s and early 2000s, because it couldn't be far from it. You're basically just pulling things out of your head and posting them as facts that everyone agrees, even though it goes against actual facts and reports we're getting from everywhere. Also what anything of what you just wrote have to do with popularity.



Mikmster on 15 February 2015
BHR-3 said:
ps1 and 2 were also priced for 149 and less for a meaningful duration of its life, ps4 will not be priced below 199 thats another reason why it will not get past 120M and why the 360 and ps3 didnt make past 100M yet


Why you think sony went with of the shelf parts for PS4 ? maybe so they can hit such pricing quite fast since it clearly worked well proven by PS and PS2



BHR-3 on 15 February 2015
Mikmster said:
BHR-3 said:
ps1 and 2 were also priced for 149 and less for a meaningful duration of its life, ps4 will not be priced below 199 thats another reason why it will not get past 120M and why the 360 and ps3 didnt make past 100M yet


Why you think sony went with of the shelf parts for PS4 ? maybe so they can hit such pricing quite fast since it clearly worked well proven by PS and PS2


thats why there competition dropped there price by 150 in a yr while there off the shelf parts did nothing to give sony a holiday price cut or decent bundle to combat them losing 50% lead in the US

 

ps4 will never sell for less than 200 and they wont go below 299 till at least 2017



                                                             

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BHR-3 on 15 February 2015
Imnus said:
BHR-3 said:
ps1 and 2 were also priced for 149 and less for a meaningful duration of its life, ps4 will not be priced below 199 thats another reason why it will not get past 120M and why the 360 and ps3 didnt make past 100M yet


If the PS3 it's pretty close to $200 ($220 right now) with Cell and it's ridiculously over engineering architecture, I don't understand how the PS4 with its modified off-the-shelf parts can't get lower than $200, I could see $100 being a stretch but $150 is easily achievable and much faster than the PS3 gets to $200.

Also while it's true that PS3 and 360 won't make it over 100M each, together they'll get over 180M. If you think PS4 "will barely make it past 100M" then PS4+XONE will barely make it past 150M-160M, do you even realize how insane this suggestion is, specially considering we're getting reports that console gaming is growing pretty much everywhere bar Japan.

 


gaming was on the uprise then and not just in social media but in actual gameplay mechanics we were introduced to 3d worlds, open worlds, and online play with those introductions we also saw new gamplay mechanics, in the last half of last gen games were becoming copy and paste and repetitive so far with the 2 yrs of this gen no game had the effect that MGS1, RE4 GTA3, gears of war, uncharted and halo ect. did for there time

Are you suggesting that what you're saying here is evidence that gaming isn't as popular as it was during late 90s and early 2000s, because it couldn't be far from it. You're basically just pulling things out of your head and posting them as facts that everyone agrees, even though it goes against actual facts and reports we're getting from everywhere. Also what anything of what you just wrote have to do with popularity.

 

ps3 and 360 went over 180M with alot of rebuys from HW failure, redesigns and motion control additions actual user base is much lower

gaming is still popular but w/o new gameplay additions or fresh experiences ie gameplay mechanics from above posts, motion controls introduction with the wii, online social and online competitive gaming ps360, you aint gonna get the new gen of consumers awareness to purchase



                                                             

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