In 20th century alone, more people have been killeid by anti theistic (atheist) and secular regimes than the people killed ''by religion'' during the rest of history of mankind

Yeah, I don't really understand why people would still go and be attracted to terrorist groups when your already well off. Here in the Philippines, its mostly because people are in poverty but in the EU, I'm pretty sure the poor over there is like middle class here. :/

So you're blaming those agressive christians i guess.

No, it's not 'all Americas fault'. Though american governments have made mistakes, as well as other governments.

And it's not a single religions fault. Please take a look at terrorism in Germany from the early seventies up to today. We've had RAF, totally on the extremistic political left wing, the NSU (national-socialist underground) that being total racist assholes.

Then take that Behring Breivik asshole from Norway. That guy definitely is not muslim.

Terrorism is neither only religion, though religious extremists can become terrorists, nor only one other ideology.

But it mostly comes from poeple that somewhat get lost in our society getting into extreme positions and starting to think their way out is violence.

So please stop putting shit on some specific religion. Instead, start thinking why there's an actually rather small portion of young muslims being radicalized right now. We could actually finally start to do something against people getting radicalized. And that is a thing which is for sure not exclusive to muslims.

Still, if you are poor, maybe have a foreign background etc. you'll have a hard live trying to get a good job, getting your kids better educated etc.

And your live standard as well is always defined by your environment. So there's people here in middle Europe that don't really have a perspective and get radicalized. Like young Germans or Dutch becoming racists or young Muslims becoming fundamentalists. And some of them again will go to the extremes.

The problem carrot is that I never mentioned a specific religion. You yourself mentioned Muslims and their religion. I have nothing against Muslims per se even though you could say that my country has been overtaken by them. We all know most terrorists belong to this specific religion of course it is a small portion of such a religion that think this way, but one cqn not dispute the fact that this is one of the only religions which has an. aggressive nature.

P.S: I think Christians are only considered aggressive people since they try to shove their belief in other peoples throats not because they kill or bomb those who are against their belief.

Good point.

@Mr. Playstation:
1. No, Islam by itself isn't more aggressive than cristianity or judaism. If you want to take a not so aggressive religion try Zoroastrianism or maybe the real Arians, not those white dickheads.
All of Abrahams nice little children do have a history of violence. One of the most violent being christians. That is actually historical fact.

2. Islam is the second biggest religion. Right after chistianity. But with a more problematic demography in many ways.

3. I'm actually living in the part of germany with the most muslim. Funny thing is, the majority of those people is more or less liberal, ok to good integrated etc., so the majority of muslims isn't a problem at all over here. But it is those radicals that get all the attention.

4. It is not like muslims vs. christians. Some important point many people are missing is that Al Kaida, IS and friends are actually making war on other muslims.

5. Not least important. Muslim isn't muslim. There have always been major differences. It's like saying orthodox, catholic, baptists, angelical etc. christians are all the same. That would be plain wrong. Most christians know that. Most even know that there are massive differences between this protastant and that protestant.

6. It is about ideologies and people getting radicalized. It doesn't matter at all if it is racism, religion or other fanatism.

While America certainly has done its part in providing material for terrorist organisations to use in recruiting, its actions are merely catalytic in nature. The issue was already there, and America can only be blamed for a moderate fraction of the conditions that produced these organisations.

It's a lot like the recent attack in Paris - while the claim being made by the terrorists was that they were "avenging mohammed" for "offensive cartoons", it's not the real reason why they did it. They did it to foment disunity and anger towards Muslims. Why? Because if the West mistreats Muslims, then the terrorists have a great recruiting tool in the form of that mistreatment.

The terrorists want these things to increase the bigotry and racism, because it actually benefits them. America's actions in various cases simply provide more convenient recruiting tools.

Note that this isn't to say that America is blameless. American actions in various countries over the past century have set up the ripe conditions for recruitment. But blaming America for the attacks is like blaming a rape victim for wearing clothes that are "too revealing" (not that I'm equating America's actions with a woman wearing revealing clothing in any way, as the completion of the analogy will make clear) - there is no "motive" at all justifying rape (or terrorist attacks on civilians). Moving away from the analogy (the following makes no connection with the rape victim analogy), you might blame America for the circumstances, but the terrorists are to blame for their own actions - they are not being controlled by America (and the American government doesn't, despite what some people claim, gain any benefit from the terrorist activity, so any suggestion that America is orchestrating things is ludicrous - not to say that anyone specifically has suggested that within this discussion, but I wanted to be clear in case someone was tempted to suggest it).

Besides which, assignment of blame is counterproductive. We need to address the root causes, only a few of which can be connected to a particular person or group with "blame". Poverty is a highly complex problem that certainly drives extremism, and is one thing that we should be working hard to address. We also need to deal with misinformation being spread by a variety of sources.

You'll notice that I've avoided speaking specifically about "Islamic terrorism" with the specific exception of where I was discussing the Paris bombing (which I did for the purposes of illustration of the point). There's good reason for this - so many people think that Islam is the source of most terrorist activity in the world, and that it's aimed at the West. It's just not true. The majority of victims of terrorist activity are Muslim (ISIS is just one example of this). Only something like 1% of all terrorist acts in Europe are committed by Muslims, and around 6% in America (which is less than the number of Jewish terrorist attacks that happen in America, at 7%). Far more of the terrorist activity that hits the west is more political than religious - separatists (such as the Basque separatist movement in Spain, who are vastly predominantly Christian, and for whom Christianity isn't a major factor) are a common form, as are extreme left- or right-wing nutjobs (the only religiously-motivated terrorist attack here in Australia was by a christian anti-abortionist - the recent Sydney siege wasn't religious, despite the Islamic flag thing).

America should certainly learn from past mistakes, and address their role in creating the circumstances in a way that doesn't just exacerbate the problem... but the world shouldn't blame America for the attacks.

1. Those were different times. We are currently living in 2015 not 2000 B.C. Every culture went through some sort of violence back then. It was a kill or be killed world. Christians have evolved and so have Muslims, unfortunaly the latter  still have a more aggresive nature believe it or not. From killing because their prophet was offended and fighting every time even ounce their government has been killed and so on. Those religions you mentioned are quiete old and unfortanely no longer popular due to the fact that they did not develop.

2. So you are saying that Islam ( The religion ) is problamatic and therefore Muslims ( The followers of such a religion ) are a problamatic demography.

3.  Talk to me in 10 to 20 years when they have taken your job and turned you into a muslim ( I am sorry if you already are for mentioning this )

4. Except most of these forces are against christians ofcourse though they fight against muslims who are against their beliefs.

5. Than the Islamic Religion should make this more clear.

6. Ofcourse, except this idology mainly belongs to Islamic community.

I do not know your beliefs and you don't know mine. I believe though that the islmaic religion from my personal experience in my country  is an oudated,viloent and woman ill treating rligion.

I would never make religion illegal because of the importance of free choice but there are many young people who are indoctrinated into religion by their culture and parents. I feel that every child should go to a school that teaches awareness of all religion but more importantly gives a full grounding of science including evolution, the formation of the universe and the cruel laws of nature to counteract the ridiculous stories they may be presented in their own culture. Once a child is indoctrinated in any one biased direction it's dangerous be it religion, racism, sexism, animal cruelty etc. We need to give children a solid mental foundation but never deny them all views.  However it has to be said religion is very dangerous because it does effectively work like a disease, once you have it you want to spread to more people. I'm an atheist but there is nothing really good about being one. It's just a horrible reality that you live and you die and that is the end of you completely. It's a tough sale. However non-acceptance is basically accepting fantasy as reality and in that mental state you are capable of anything almost. It's corruption and bias. I'm only an atheist because the facts dictate it. I certainly don't want to be atheist.