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LordLichtenstein said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Pure cost doesn't represent value though. That could easily have been just a large amount of poor games (I think it has been recently actually).

Bioshock: Infinite
DMC: Devil May Cry
Metro: Last Light
Tomb Raider
Batman: Arkham City
Puppeteer
Skullgirls Encore
NBA 2K14
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Dead Space 3
Crysis 3
Dragon's Crown
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Injustice: Gods Among Us


Its great value if you've never played any of those games. I've played 5 of those games and out of the others, I'm only interested in 3 more. So for me personally, $50 a month to play 3 games isn't that great value. Its still much better than terrible games we get with Xbox Live gold though. 



    

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Why talk about "play online value" when this results are based in the PS3? The online is free here.

Problems with the article:
- It uses prices in the PS store to determine the value.
- Maybe you already own/played those games. This brings the value down from the player PoV.
- Maybe you don't like that game/genre. This just brings the value down to zero.

While I see the value in the program, i get really uncomfortable for buying something before knowing what it is.
Even more when i look to PS4 free games. I would be very disappointed with PS+ by now if i only had a PS4.

I'd rather have free online. =/



JazzB1987 said:

A digital download costs 2 cents or so.

So they gave away 674.645 game downloads?


I dont get how you can say you got something and how something you dont even own can somehow be added to a number that then shows the value you received.
I mean I cant even keep it.

If my friends lend me their games nothing gets more valuable at all.

Its like me buying every single game that exists from amazon playing it and then returning it to amazon. So by that logic I got 1 billion value for free.

Is this dude serious? Please tell me he's not.



LordLichtenstein said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Pure cost doesn't represent value though. That could easily have been just a large amount of poor games (I think it has been recently actually).

Bioshock: Infinite
DMC: Devil May Cry
Metro: Last Light
Tomb Raider
Batman: Arkham City
Puppeteer
Skullgirls Encore
NBA 2K14
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Dead Space 3
Crysis 3
Dragon's Crown
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Injustice: Gods Among Us

Yeah, personally I didn't like the games offered (already owned most of the big ones), but there is no denying that there is some tremendous value here.



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I paid €80 to watch a football match this year on more than one occasion. I thought that was value for money for an hours entertainment. Nobody in their right mind could say PS Plus isn't an absolute steal for gamers!



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starcraft said:

If we threw logic out the window and assumed that Sony did give something away, then that figure would be silly, as many of the games were no good, many were on systems the vast majority of PS3 owners cannot access, and many are available at far cheaper costthan their original RRP (and to own forever at that).

Of course we could go one step further, and point out that Sony's costs were virtually nothing for the dowloads, and then whatever they paid publishers for games, averaged over the number of PS+ users.


1. Who determines what's good? There are people who prefer "silly indies" over AAA games because if they are interested in an AAA game, they it before it's offerered on ps+. ps+  also exposes people to games they never would have given a chance otherwise. 

2. I don't get this point. Surely what's important here is that most ps+ subscribers have a ps4 and most likely a ps3. The majority of ps3 owners don't have ps+  anyway.

3. You don't exxactly own it forever. If it gets damaged, lost, given to a friend who never returns it, etc, it's gone for ever. The same can't be said about digital dowloads. I recently moved to a new country and couldn't take my over 100 ps3 physical copies, but just with my ps3 and a decent internet connection, I can have access to an insane number of games I've received from ps+



starcraft said:
Carl2291 said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Pure cost doesn't represent value though. That could easily have been just a large amount of poor games (I think it has been recently actually).

Are you really gonna argue that $50 for over $1,300 worth of content ranging at 79/78 Meta isnt a good deal?

How can you really argue that it is just a large amount of poor games too, when the average Meta's range from 79/78?

I don't think he is saying it isn't a good deal, I think he is pointing out the ridiculousness of assigning that value and suggesting Sony 'gave it away.'

I believe that to someone who owned a PS3 (probably not someone who owned soley a PS4 or Vita) PS+ was a good deal this year.

But Sony gave nothing away. We PAID for a rental service. A good rental service, yes.

If we threw logic out the window and assumed that Sony did give something away, then that figure would be silly, as many of the games were no good, many were on systems the vast majority of PS3 owners cannot access, and many are available at far cheaper costthan their original RRP (and to own forever at that).

Of course we could go one step further, and point out that Sony's costs were virtually nothing for the dowloads, and then whatever they paid publishers for games, averaged over the number of PS+ users.

Yes, let's throw logic out the window and let you determine that "many of the games were no good". Shit lets throw reading out the window and not look at the OP where he clearly posts that the average monthly metacritic ranking of the games given away on PS Plus was a 79.

 



MoHasanie said:
LordLichtenstein said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Pure cost doesn't represent value though. That could easily have been just a large amount of poor games (I think it has been recently actually).

Bioshock: Infinite
DMC: Devil May Cry
Metro: Last Light
Tomb Raider
Batman: Arkham City
Puppeteer
Skullgirls Encore
NBA 2K14
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
Dead Space 3
Crysis 3
Dragon's Crown
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Injustice: Gods Among Us


Its great value if you've never played any of those games. I've played 5 of those games and out of the others, I'm only interested in 3 more. So for me personally, $50 a month to play 3 games isn't that great value. Its still much better than terrible games we get with Xbox Live gold though. 

That's great for you, but that is not the whole list of PS Plus games given away during 2014.



I paid $50 for $1,349.29. Id take that deal anytime.



naruball said:

1. Who determines what's good? There are people who prefer "silly indies" over AAA games because if they are interested in an AAA game, they it before it's offerered on ps+. ps+  also exposes people to games they never would have given a chance otherwise. 

2. I don't get this point. Surely what's important here is that most ps+ subscribers have a ps4 and most likely a ps3. The majority of ps3 owners don't have ps+  anyway.

3. You don't exxactly own it forever. If it gets damaged, lost, given to a friend who never returns it, etc, it's gone for ever. The same can't be said about digital dowloads. I recently moved to a new country and couldn't take my over 100 ps3 physical copies, but just with my ps3 and a decent internet connection, I can have access to an insane number of games I've received from ps+

There are occasional people who prefer indies over AAA games. But PS+ doesn't have a specific focus on indies. You're arguing that because a small portion of the population might play a game they wouldn't otherwise have played, it is reasonable to simply tally the RRP of all games and determine that to be the value of PS+ for all subscribers.

There is some truth to the notion that a lot of PS+ subscribers are PS4 owners. Rightly or wrongly (and I would argue the studies are dubious), it has been suggested that a large proportion of PS4 owners did not buy a PS3. But as I said, the best value of the program would be drawn from someone who owned all three platforms - in other words a tiny portion of the population.

3. People who move country would be a statistically insignificant portion of PS+ subscribers (I am sure you realize this). Further more, paying $60-100 (depending on country) per year in perpetuity to play your games is not something that can be reasonably compared to the possibility you might accidentaly misplace your entire games collection.

Again, I am not saying PS+ doesn't offer value. I am saying Sony gave nothing away, and that the value listed in the OP is ridiculous.



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