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walsufnir said:


But as always, media is especially mentioning more the bad decisions than the good ones. And of course representatives talk bullshit sometimes, not only Ballmer. Pointing to the failures we all know of doesn't help as MS is healthy as never before.

Making "tons" of mistakes in this time we live is as natural as breathing. You can't be a dynamic and evolving company and make only decisions which are completely safe to foresee in the future.

You know, you don't actually seem to be disputing what I'm saying, but rather things I never said at all, so I'm kind of confused at the direction of this conversation.



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pokoko said:
walsufnir said:


But as always, media is especially mentioning more the bad decisions than the good ones. And of course representatives talk bullshit sometimes, not only Ballmer. Pointing to the failures we all know of doesn't help as MS is healthy as never before.

Making "tons" of mistakes in this time we live is as natural as breathing. You can't be a dynamic and evolving company and make only decisions which are completely safe to foresee in the future.

You know, you don't actually seem to be disputing what I'm saying, but rather things I never said at all, so I'm kind of confused at the direction of this conversation.

Microsoft's most profitable division isn't even the windows division it is the business division where nearly half of there total profits come from. In fact it is now down to the 3rd most profitable part of MS behind there server and tools division. There enterprise footprint especially in Database, server and dev tools, cloud and office have been massively successful, but you don't hear about that stuff as consumers have no interest in it. They make far more good decisions and investments than bad, but like any large company they certainly make there share of bad decisions, in the case of MS a lot of those have been more in the consumer stuff which is more visible to people like you.



nanarchy said:

Microsoft's most profitable division isn't even the windows division it is the business division where nearly half of there total profits come from. In fact it is now down to the 3rd most profitable part of MS behind there server and tools division. There enterprise footprint especially in Database, server and dev tools, cloud and office have been massively successful, but you don't hear about that stuff as consumers have no interest in it. They make far more good decisions and investments than bad, but like any large company they certainly make there share of bad decisions, in the case of MS a lot of those have been more in the consumer stuff which is more visible to people like you.

Ah, people like me.  I see.  Tell me, people like you, where did I say they didn't make good decisions?



JamaicameCRAZY said:

Wow dude lighten up. He put jk and binary never does crap wrong. Stop acting like your being victimized frequently. 

I do find it funny you barely commented on the topic went on about finacial reports and ceos. The spin is real.

 

Ot- you wana make an omelette you gotta break some eggs. 


Get used, it's always like that. Want to call him? Create a thread like "MS has record profits" or "Sony suffers loss in QX 20XX". Now create something like "XB1 trailing behind PS4" or "PS4 selling at record levels" and you won't see the slight sign of our friend.

Anyway, I think he should light up. Kowen, you are usually to aggressive with everyone.



pokoko said:
nanarchy said:

Microsoft's most profitable division isn't even the windows division it is the business division where nearly half of there total profits come from. In fact it is now down to the 3rd most profitable part of MS behind there server and tools division. There enterprise footprint especially in Database, server and dev tools, cloud and office have been massively successful, but you don't hear about that stuff as consumers have no interest in it. They make far more good decisions and investments than bad, but like any large company they certainly make there share of bad decisions, in the case of MS a lot of those have been more in the consumer stuff which is more visible to people like you.

Ah, people like me.  I see.  Tell me, people like you, where did I say they didn't make good decisions?

Yes people like you, you look with 20-20 hindsight and say how stupid and bad a decision that was. They know that many of there bets won't pay off, that is the business they are in, they diversify across a very large range of areas so that no one area dominates there profit like 10 or 15 years ago when they were reliant on 2 products, they make bets and any that don't pay off they cut there loses and move on. It is a sign of a very healthy and well thought out business model and it is one of the reasons they have consistently increased profit and revenue over the last decade.



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How will Microsoft survive this? They surely must be on the verge of going broke by now!



nanarchy said:
pokoko said:
nanarchy said:

Microsoft's most profitable division isn't even the windows division it is the business division where nearly half of there total profits come from. In fact it is now down to the 3rd most profitable part of MS behind there server and tools division. There enterprise footprint especially in Database, server and dev tools, cloud and office have been massively successful, but you don't hear about that stuff as consumers have no interest in it. They make far more good decisions and investments than bad, but like any large company they certainly make there share of bad decisions, in the case of MS a lot of those have been more in the consumer stuff which is more visible to people like you.

Ah, people like me.  I see.  Tell me, people like you, where did I say they didn't make good decisions?

Yes people like you, you look with 20-20 hindsight and say how stupid and bad a decision that was. They know that many of there bets won't pay off, that is the business they are in, they diversify across a very large range of areas so that no one area dominates there profit like 10 or 15 years ago when they were reliant on 2 products, they make bets and any that don't pay off they cut there loses and move on. It is a sign of a very healthy and well thought out business model and it is one of the reasons they have consistently increased profit and revenue over the last decade.

And you would be the kind of person who makes up arguments for others and struggles with reading comprehension, it would seem.  I never said any of that wasn't true.  All I said is that they've made a lot of mistakes, which is on record.  Why does that bother you?  Why does that give you the need to act condescending?  It's puzzling.  I even said that they are strong enough that these failures have little impact and that they don't care as long as they can increase market penetration.  There really is no need for you to grab your sword and shield for this one.  What's the point?  Did I ever say they were not healthy?  Did I ever say that their mistakes mean DOOM?  I certainly did not.  So, really, what is your damage, Heather?