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Which was better?

God of War. 275 69.97%
 
Devil May Cry. 118 30.03%
 
Total:393
MTZehvor said:

Uh sure

Whatever you say


Well I apprecaite that you are new to the series so I woulnd't expect you to know things like that. But your giving the series an inaccurate portrayal by pretending that DmC was the problem, when the problems came from the previous games. Even DMC3 had combat issues that needed to be addressed.



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A203D said:
MTZehvor said:

Uh sure

Whatever you say


Well I apprecaite that you are new to the series so I woulnd't expect you to know things like that. But your giving the series an inaccurate portrayal by pretending that DmC was the problem, when the problems came from the previous games. Even DMC3 had combat issues that needed to be addressed.

You've got some major reading problems if you somehow picked that up from what I said. I never, ever claimed that DMC3 didn't have issues (or any other game in the franchise). I said the first and third game were masterpieces. Perfect? Not at all, but they're both well contained, tight, enjoyable action titles that are well paced (outside of the first mission of DMC1) and at the top of their genre, at least in my opinion.

DmC was by no means the first "flawed" game in the series, but it was a major step back. Pretentious story trying way too hard to be taken seriously, dumbed down combat scheme that removed quite a bit of what fans enjoyed from the previous DMC games, a frankly bizarre decision to put enemies in the later levels that were only vulnerable to 1 or 2 weapons which limited combat variety big time and some incredibly underwhelming boss fights. 

With all that said, that's simply why I didn't like the game. The artstyle is something I found intriguing, but it wasn't enough to offset the rest of the game. If you like it, then hey, more power to you. But don't pretend that you somehow speak for the entirety of the fanbase here.



Setting.  God of War

Characters.  DMC

Better first game.  DMC

Evolvution.  DMC.  God of War has been the same since the first one.  I haven't played Ascension, but there's five games before that so it's negilible.

Better games.  DMC by far, except for the second game.  God of War is okay, not all that great.



MTZehvor said:

You've got some major reading problems if you somehow picked that up from what I said. I never, ever claimed that DMC3 didn't have issues (or any other game in the franchise). I said the first and third game were masterpieces. Perfect? Not at all, but they're both well contained, tight, enjoyable action titles that are well paced (outside of the first mission of DMC1) and at the top of their genre, at least in my opinion.

DmC was by no means the first "flawed" game in the series, but it was a major step back. Pretentious story trying way too hard to be taken seriously, dumbed down combat scheme that removed quite a bit of what fans enjoyed from the previous DMC games, a frankly bizarre decision to put enemies in the later levels that were only vulnerable to 1 or 2 weapons which limited combat variety big time and some incredibly underwhelming boss fights. 

With all that said, that's simply why I didn't like the game. The artstyle is something I found intriguing, but it wasn't enough to offset the rest of the game. If you like it, then hey, more power to you. But don't pretend that you somehow speak for the entirety of the fanbase here.

"If you like it, then hey, more power to you. But don't pretend that you somehow speak for the entirety of the fanbase here."

... I haven't said I'm speaking for the entirity of the fans... I am speaking from well grounded facts. Neither us can speak for individuals other than ourselves, unless we are quoting professional sources. Which you are not.

"DmC was by no means the first "flawed" game in the series, but it was a major step back."

Like I said, I don't see how giving the player manual lock-on and more complete control over Dante were a step back. You will have to rephrase that as you opinion, since I understand your not well versed with the series. Thats fine, but your views are not universally accepted I'm afraid.

"Pretentious story trying way too hard to be taken seriously, dumbed down combat scheme that removed quite a bit of what fans enjoyed from the previous DMC games"

Your opinion on the story is your own. As it is your own opinion the combat is 'dumbed down'. Like I said, I understand your new to the series, so you are unaware that the combat is exceptional and exceeded the sophistcation of the combat in previous games. Try not to state your inexperienced opinion as fact next time.



Experimental42 said:

It was created by the founders of Platinum and a good chunk of their staff, and even though they are gone from it, their fingerprints are all over the series. Particularly the third entry. They strayed from Kamiya's blue prints with the second game and it bombed miserably. The third installment is pretty much an attempt to get that "Kamiya" feel back and it's so successful that many fans to this day think Kamiya and Platinum were involved with DMC3.

If you played one good game then the second game which Capcom made aware it was by a different development team that turned out to be absolute ass, then heard again that the development team was changing for the third one.  Common sense would be, hey they went back to the first development team, especially gamers who aren't in the know.  Combos going back to timed button presses, etc. 

The fact of the matter though, that none of this even matters because Platinum games didn't develop DMC3.  Platinum had no part in the advancements made to the series, had no part in developing the large amount of well designed bosses that far exceed the quality of the four bosses you repeatedly fight on the first game.  This isn't to bash Platinum though.  They've made good games, just throwing the fact thatKamiya didn't help create anything other than the first DMC in the series, so stop trying to give credit where credit isn't due.

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Imo I'd rate the DMC series DMC3 ~ DmC > DMC > DMC4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DMC2



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A203D said:

Your opinion on the story is your own. As it is your own opinion the combat is 'dumbed down'. Like I said, I understand your new to the series, so you are unaware that the combat is exceptional and exceeded the sophistcation of the combat in previous games. Try not to state your inexperienced opinion as fact next time.

>Claiming that I'm stating opinion as fact

>Responding to a post that literally says "this is simply why I didn't like it" at the bottom

>Makes a claim about combat being objectively better one sentence before

Are you just trying to troll or something? It's cool if you are, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out if you're genuinely interested in discussing this in a non-insulting fashion or not.

 



MTZehvor said:
A203D said:

Your opinion on the story is your own. As it is your own opinion the combat is 'dumbed down'. Like I said, I understand your new to the series, so you are unaware that the combat is exceptional and exceeded the sophistcation of the combat in previous games. Try not to state your inexperienced opinion as fact next time.

>Claiming that I'm stating opinion as fact

>Responding to a post that literally says "this is simply why I didn't like it" at the bottom

>Makes a claim about combat being objectively better one sentence before

Are you just trying to troll or something? It's cool if you are, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out if you're genuinely interested in discussing this in a non-insulting fashion or not.

 


"Claiming that I'm stating opinion as fact"

It is your opinion the game is dumbed down, certainly not fact.

"Makes a claim about combat being objectively better one sentence before"

The combat is objectively better.

"Are you just trying to troll or something? It's cool if you are, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out if you're genuinely interested in discussing this in a non-insulting fashion or not."

Accusing me of being a troll?? What because you said DmC was a disaster in your opinion post and I've decided to question you on claiming the combat is dumbed down??

You really want to do this again? I've still got your posts of admitting DMC4 was automatic, and thus you can never objectively prove that the combat is better as long as you've admitted the truth about that.



A203D said:
MTZehvor said:
A203D said:

Your opinion on the story is your own. As it is your own opinion the combat is 'dumbed down'. Like I said, I understand your new to the series, so you are unaware that the combat is exceptional and exceeded the sophistcation of the combat in previous games. Try not to state your inexperienced opinion as fact next time.

>Claiming that I'm stating opinion as fact

>Responding to a post that literally says "this is simply why I didn't like it" at the bottom

>Makes a claim about combat being objectively better one sentence before

Are you just trying to troll or something? It's cool if you are, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out if you're genuinely interested in discussing this in a non-insulting fashion or not.

 


"Claiming that I'm stating opinion as fact"

It is your opinion the game is dumbed down, certainly not fact.

"Makes a claim about combat being objectively better one sentence before"

The combat is objectively better.

"Are you just trying to troll or something? It's cool if you are, I'm just having trouble trying to figure out if you're genuinely interested in discussing this in a non-insulting fashion or not."

Accusing me of being a troll?? What because you said DmC was a disaster in your opinion post and I've decided to question you on claiming the combat is dumbed down??

You really want to do this again? I've still got your posts of admitting DMC4 was automatic, and thus you can never objectively prove that the combat is better as long as you've admitted the truth about that.

...do I know you or something?

Anyway, of course it's my opinion the game is dumbed down. I've literally been saying everything is my opinion in all of my posts on here. Everything we've been saying about this is opinion. Including your rather silly claim about the combat being "objectively" better, when the overall quality of a game is literally nothing BUT opinion.

I'm accusing you of trolling because all you've done so far is accuse me of stating opinion as facts, when I've very clearly stated that everything I'm saying is my own opinion, and then on top of that you've made tons of sweeping generalizations that are nothing but opinion and stated them as fact.



MTZehvor said:

...do I know you or something?

Anyway, of course it's my opinion the game is dumbed down. I've literally been saying everything is my opinion in all of my posts on here. Everything we've been saying about this is opinion. Including your rather silly claim about the combat being "objectively" better, when the overall quality of a game is literally nothing BUT opinion.

I'm accusing you of trolling because all you've done so far is accuse me of stating opinion as facts, when I've very clearly stated that everything I'm saying is my own opinion, and then on top of that you've made tons of sweeping generalizations that are nothing but opinion and stated them as fact.

"I'm accusing you of trolling because all you've done so far is accuse me of stating opinion as facts, when I've very clearly stated that everything I'm saying is my own opinion, and then on top of that you've made tons of sweeping generalizations that are nothing but opinion and stated them as fact."

Thats perfectly fine, your stating your opinion, nothing more than that. I don't see a problem. If thats all it is then theres no problem.

"...do I know you or something?"

Its possible you repressed the memory after what happened last time. Lol. Understandable in your case.



God Of War is better in every respect compared to Devil May Cry except for the protagonist.