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There's really no point. All you'll get in a Mac is simplified computer in an overpriced, yet sleek package. Macs are decent enough computers, but you're basically paying more for less functionality. A Linux/Windows dual boot out-performs OSX in every way imaginable (this is from someone with lots of experience on OSX, XP, and various Debian derivatives).

I run Ubuntu on my PC and XP Pro on my laptop, and I wouldn't have it any other way.



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I'm kind of mixed with the software integration of Macs and OSX.

Yes, everything is great so far, but isn't that why we knock MS sometimes? because they try to stuff Microsoft Office/Outlook/IE/MSN search/MSN Messenger down our throats?

But so far, I like OSX. I don't use Safari. I don't use Mail. I download and install Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice just fine, though.



I have had windows laptops for the past 8 years and just bought a MBP two months ago. I never knew a computer could be so hassle free. Here are some of the reasons I love using a mac:

1) Its actually fun to use

2) Expose

3) Multi touch trackpad

4) Spotlight

5) Very portable with long lasting battery

6) Time Machine

7) Spaces

8) It comes out of sleep in about 5 seconds

9) Built in webcam for video chat (surprisingly fun)

10) It looks pretty



Rugger08 said:
I have had windows laptops for the past 8 years and just bought a MBP two months ago. I never knew a computer could be so hassle free. Here are some of the reasons I love using a mac:

1) Its actually fun to use

What do you mean?

2) Expose

Compiz (Linux). Sorry, it is the best window manager one can find.

3) Multi touch trackpad

Good

4) Spotlight

Tracker (Linux)

5) Very portable with long lasting battery

Good

6) Time Machine

rsync, but I must admit yours looks better. Mine does more, though.

7) Spaces

We've had this on Linux for years.

8) It comes out of sleep in about 5 seconds

Good

9) Built in webcam for video chat (surprisingly fun)

Good

10) It looks pretty

Good, but look at Compiz. Does it beat that?


The conclusion I'm beginning to come to is that it is a better generic laptop in terms of value and good hardware than an OS.

"I'm kind of mixed with the software integration of Macs and OSX.

Yes, everything is great so far, but isn't that why we knock MS sometimes? because they try to stuff Microsoft Office/Outlook/IE/MSN search/MSN Messenger down our throats?

But so far, I like OSX. I don't use Safari. I don't use Mail. I download and install Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice just fine, though."

There wouldn't be much point to me having OS X and then using all my Linux applications on it. If the native programs aren't ahead of what I can have for free, there's no real point... 

"Dashboard"

Is it better than KDE's Plasma? 

"Get an EEE PC. <3 it "

That looks interesting, actually. It is cheap but also ultraportable, and it runs Linux! When they come out with one of those but on a later-generation processor (VIA CN/Isaiah, Intel's new Silverthorne or AMD's Bobcat) I will seriously consider buying one.

"And I'm a Mac user. Apple's OS upgrade cycle is obnoxious and the inability to swap hardware parts can actually lead to a shorter life span in some regards."

I've gotten used to the fact my graphics card has halved in value in 6 months. PCs are just as expensive to upgrade as to buy new.


"Advantages over linux include legal DVD support, More polished programs, Cleaner look(though the ancient folder Icon has to go I do like the folder previews in windows better). Less clutter and simplier upgrades due to the closed natures of Macs. The ability to use Itunes(and a non bastardized version of it). The ability to use several prosumer level programs for a realtively cheap price."

Hey, I like libdvdcss. No, actually legal codecs would be a bonus. The It's-UNIX-but-it-Just-Works-factor is the reason I'm considering Macs in the first place. Yes, I would buy iWork and iLife if I got a Mac because the experience wouldn't be complete without it. Do they fell like their Windows/Linux equivalents?

"Disadvantages include more Kernal Panics, Slower for most things(except MP3 encoding in Itunes). It lacks advanced codec suport that Windows has(really only matters for stuff like .mkv and .ogg and several types of .avi files). I know you are computer literate enough but many mac users think that there are no uninstallers in a Mac so they just delete the files they see in there application folder but often times there is a clutter of useless and sometimes conflicting .kext files that are left behind because programs like adobe master suite do infact have an uninstaller. The inability to hold down both the right button and left button at the same time on a mouse (but this only matters for cewrtain games where it makes you move forward and only if you use the trackpad on the notebook at that)"

I'm happy to learn how to use my system properly. All of that won't be a problem.

 



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Okay, I'm not buying a Mac. QED. That's Ubuntu, by the way. 



Ubuntu. Linux for human beings.

If you are interested in trying Ubuntu or Linux in general, PM me and I will answer your questions and help you install it if you wish.

that's awesome. I've been trying to figure out how to do a Mac skin for my Ubuntu Setup. Could you PM me with a howto or links? Or in this thread is fine too.



Lanceuppercut said:
There's really no point. All you'll get in a Mac is simplified computer in an overpriced, yet sleek package. Macs are decent enough computers, but you're basically paying more for less functionality. A Linux/Windows dual boot out-performs OSX in every way imaginable (this is from someone with lots of experience on OSX, XP, and various Debian derivatives).

I run Ubuntu on my PC and XP Pro on my laptop, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

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"Advantages over linux include legal DVD support, More polished programs, Cleaner look(though the ancient folder Icon has to go I do like the folder previews in windows better). Less clutter and simplier upgrades due to the closed natures of Macs. The ability to use Itunes(and a non bastardized version of it). The ability to use several prosumer level programs for a realtively cheap price."

Hey, I like libdvdcss. No, actually legal codecs would be a bonus. The It's-UNIX-but-it-Just-Works-factor is the reason I'm considering Macs in the first place. Yes, I would buy iWork and iLife if I got a Mac because the experience wouldn't be complete without it. Do they fell like their Windows/Linux equivalents?

"Disadvantages include more Kernal Panics, Slower for most things(except MP3 encoding in Itunes). It lacks advanced codec suport that Windows has(really only matters for stuff like .mkv and .ogg and several types of .avi files). I know you are computer literate enough but many mac users think that there are no uninstallers in a Mac so they just delete the files they see in there application folder but often times there is a clutter of useless and sometimes conflicting .kext files that are left behind because programs like adobe master suite do infact have an uninstaller. The inability to hold down both the right button and left button at the same time on a mouse (but this only matters for cewrtain games where it makes you move forward and only if you use the trackpad on the notebook at that)"

I'm happy to learn how to use my system properly. All of that won't be a problem.

 

I life is probably the best available program at the level and definitely the most user freindly program. I am a bit of a fan of Imovie and it is definitely better and prettier than the equivelent apps on Linux and Windows for what it is. It is one I recommend for non hardcore video editors.

OSX runs most things slower than their windows and linux counterparts. Apple made software however runs pretty quick and is comparable to running stuff in a Vista enviroment in terms of speed. the Kernel panics are more frequent when using linux based programs though(it isn't really that big of an issue). I think the key thing which causes this is that OSX uses a Micro Kernal it is really the only thing I can think of.