@prof coddling. I can't help but to think you're referring to me. Are you pretending like our first game together never happened? I helped you and encouraged you all game. I said you were smart, that you were playing well, and all as town.

I don't see how you can use that as a tell of any kind. That's just my townie play, I am more positive and encourage good townie play when I see it. The only town meta you have of me is our first game together so you need to use that.

I know you're talking in code here, it's obvious, and you know I'm not stupid enough to not see you trying to buddy up hylian.

I'm not sure if you're a fan of gambits, but they tend to be dangerous. High risk, high reward. That's all I'll say on the matter.

I'm assuming you're talking about the FE scum thread conversation. I reread it and I think I know what you're referring to. Keeping an eye out. I might see something, but I want to wait to see if patterns form. I'm going to go ahead and trust you on this. If you do it as scum it would only backfire on you anyway.

As for comforting Clyde, well my thought was that if I got him too comfortable he might slip. I figured if he was guilty, if I made him think I was on his side he'd get comfortable and slip at some point. And if he was town, it would help town stay unified. I dunno, it made sense at the time. I've by no means given him a town read at this point. I don't really think it was enough to go off of, even if it was a slip, and like I said in the post, I don't want him to panic and look suspicious when he wasn't, and I thought there was a great chance he wasn't. So I just posted it so as to make a note of it for later, and make sure the rest of town was aware of it, while also hopefully either getting scum too comfortable around me or getting a townie to be unafraid to voice his questions and opinions.

Sounds like you're well aware of it though, so that's good, though I'm pretty sure it was you that made a similar slip at the beginning, not me. It was the huge back and forth conversation I couldn't stand to read where prof thought he'd caught you in a slip about day talk, and you countered that you'd seen it in the sign up thread. Regardless, I disagreed that it was a slip-up, because you HAD seen it in the sign-up thread, and were asking legitimate questions that any noob might ask. With Clyde's question, I just thought it was a really stupid question that he should have known the answer to or at least could have answered himself. I haven't completely written it off yet.

By the way, in your analysis of Clyde, could you say what you think the implications of his question are if he's scum? I'd think if he is scum asking that question, it might imply there isn't day talk for mafia, which means we should be looking for signs of coaching.

With Cone, I maintain that at first, when Smeags made the joke, Cone played along, and then he stopped playing along and jumped on Smeags for it. I explained in that post what I thought of Smeags' jokes. Do you agree with that analysis (deliberate tactic to get town talking and get reactions)? If you do, then look at the post I quoted where Cone jumps on Smeags. Can you see how I might be concerned? It seems like an inappropriate reaction to the joke. I might expect it from WhiteEagle who didn't get the joke in the first place, but not from Cone who actually played along. Cone also jumped on Eric over a joke. I know you said you don't trust Eric, but come on dude. Last game he was worse than WhiteEagle was in his first game. He didn't seem himself at all. It was like he could barely understand what was going on and was afraid to do anything. This game, he actually sounds like himself, and is keeping up with what's going on, he can dish out as much as he gets. The incredible personality shift simply isn't something you can coach. Apparently you think it could be, but I feel like there's been a psychological shift from one game to the next that simply can't be taught. I'm not saying he's confirmed town, but I would be very shocked if he could make that kind of improvement just from people telling him what to say. Remember, he had scum to talk to last game and it wasn't enough.

That said, I think the reason you're concerned about my analysis of Cone is that, first, he's the flat out most active poster in the thread as of your last post count. That definitely counts for something. And second, he's definitely doing investigations, that also counts for a LOT. My concern is that even scum can be active, however, just as you were your first game, and scum can definitely try to do investigations, as you did in the Fire Emblem game. The trick is to look at the investigations, to see what they're trying to influence. I'd hate to find out our most active poster is the enemy, but Cone went after two people for what was obviously pure joking. Recently, he criticized your Noctis investigation for going nowhere, but then immediately after says it's a good idea. That's precisely the kind of empty posts scum try to make. Doesn't really commit to anything. Makes him look like he cares when he doesn't. So I countered in a later post that if he has a problem with the investigation, he should do something about it, which I then in turn demonstrated to him. Alas, Noctis got off, but the point stands.

Keep in mind that these are just investigations. Their purpose is to follow leads, not to condemn or antagonize people. The only investigation I'm remotely confident about right now is Astro. I'm just doing the responsible thing and following leads that I think have some logic to them. Just as you disagreed with my analysis of Cone, I disagree with his reasoning for going after the people that he did. I'm not just lashing out mindlessly. I hope you'll at least consider my ideas on Cone, though for now I have a null read on him. I'd like to hear exactly why you disagree so strongly with my analysis of him, though. I may have overlooked something, so I'm open to criticism.

As for Noctis, his defense was nitpicky. He had done one more post since the start of the day, big deal. Your point still stands, he's inactive. But for now, I think it's best to just see if he improves. Like I said, if his work excuse is true, it will make itself evident. The nitpicky nature of it does make him seem potentially too defensive, but at the same time, it could be seen as you, as he put it, "grasping at straws". I'm reserving judgment for now to see what he does. You've certainly backed him into a corner here. He has to be more active now or he incriminates himself. The bottom line is his entire activity can be summed up as checking in, claiming he's working, and saying that he's not really that inactive and it's just work that was holding him back. I say we give him a day or two, see if the same description doesn't hold true then.

What do you think about the 3 votes that you got?

Im glad you are asking questions and getting more active. It's a good start in getting me to change my opinion of you if you are town. However I have to ask what do you mean by 3 votes that he got? I've looked back a few times and the only person who voted for spurge is you. So mind clarifying what you meant by "3 votes that you got?"

way to go genius. >_>

^^^^^ Attacking me doesn't clear things up. Now I know we got off to a rocky start but being defensive and insulting me doesn't clear up confusion or suspicion on you. Now I'll ask again what did you mean by "3 votes that you got?" Will it help calm you down if I unvote you? Will that help get you to be rational and active? If so then fine. I don't want to make the mistake in tunneling you and no matter what team you are on your input is valuable. I want to find reason to consider you are town but doing nothing, and then insulting me and only adding more confusion doesn't really do that. For now I'm, taking my vote off you in the hopes it at least gets you to open up some and quit wasting time.

Unvote: Noctis

I really don't care if you vote for me or you keep on attacking me. I don't mind. I'll just keep on answering what you throw at me.

anyway, you just ruined my plan that's all. I want to know if Spurge is really reading the thread. I am using this to check if he is reading the thread.

I'm unsure of you Spurge since you haven't contributed a lot to conversation. Though bringing attention to yourself suggests you are town.

Hylian has been pretty active on the other hand. I feel he's possibly scum but that's just some gut feeling now. Can't really prove it. My terrible play makes me a really easy target but, hylian is the only one who targetted me seriously after I got some activity in. He also targetted Nickles rather strongly aswell. May just be some aggressive strategy but also, a possible diversion.