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Mr Khan said:
HylianSwordsman said:
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Well I guess that makes sense. After all, if I'm scum, I bussed him too, as I supported his lynch in favor of a much easier mislynch and intended to vote for him until it got too close to the hammer. And he was barely around.

Do provide an account of what you have contributed so far, then.


I've confirmed you multiple times, both when I saw you target me and when could have lied and said I saw spurge track you when I didn't see anything of the sort, which would have protected Yoshiya and put suspicion on you. I may not have voted for Yoshiya, but I did nothing to stop it and I supported it. I've used logic and done as much as I can to reduce confusion. I also showed that spurge did successfully track someone. I just didn't think he was town because like any rational person, I thought your power was a real power, and didn't immediately assume miller, especially since I had confirmation that spurge was lying. If spurge had just told the truth, I would have known. I mean the only way that spurge could be telling the truth is if you indeed are a passive role that just thinks he's a cop and got lucky with Yoshiya, or if spurge was in fact redirected, which would mean stefl was lying.



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So in other words, Khan, if I'm scum, I purposefully set up a follow-the-cop scenario, doing all in my power to give you credibility when there's NO way I could have known you were a useless cop, assuming you still think that. I also couldn't have known that there was a miller. I've made no efforts whatsoever to stop the follow-the-cop strategy we've had going, even though I had opportunities to. I could have discredited the cop, or I could have stolen the hammer vote, yet I've done neither. I've not only enabled a follow-the-cop scenario, I enabled one in a game with an unkillable doctor (in the form of the hammer vote) and made no efforts to control that doctor (by stealing the hammer). If I'm scum, I've done more to destroy my team than you would if you were scum and bussed Yoshiya.



For the record, if you didn't know, Khan, follow-the-cop is where the cop claims early and gets protected by a doctor or other protective role while he slowly weeds people out.



I suppose i can buy that, for now.

Wasn't stefl confirmed also by the PM snafu that confirmed Radishhead?



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Mr Khan said:
I suppose i can buy that, for now.

Wasn't stefl confirmed also by the PM snafu that confirmed Radishhead?

His ability was confirmed (at least some sort of blocking ability was confirmed) by the PM mess. So we can assume he can redirect actions onto himself, but we don't know that that makes him town. As I said before, he could have stolen your scan of Spurge and directed it to himself, which of course would mean he is scum.

I don't buy the miller theory about Spurge, not in the least. To me it seems ridicolous that Spurge wouldn't know he was a miller, and even more ridicolous that it wouldn't even be revealed at the flip. Consulting the wiki though, there is the mention that there have been examples of millers who don't know that they are millers, but it seems ridicolous to me. I would love to hear the opinion of people who have played games here, preferably with prof as a player or even better as a mod that included a miller. Chances are we don't have that experience to draw from though. 



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The miller option is the only one that makes sense if people don't buy the "my ability is useless" explanation. He not only had the bat, it made sense for his claimed role of Ness, despite him ultimately being town.

Besides, if i were lying, i would have come up with something actually dangerous from the EarthBound franchise. Like the bag of snakes, which would have fit with the poisoning earlier.

Astrogamer, what say you in your defense?



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Mr Khan said:
The miller option is the only one that makes sense if people don't buy the "my ability is useless" explanation. He not only had the bat, it made sense for his claimed role of Ness, despite him ultimately being town.

Besides, if i were lying, i would have come up with something actually dangerous from the EarthBound franchise. Like the bag of snakes, which would have fit with the poisoning earlier.

Astrogamer, what say you in your defense?

A bat is pretty dangerous especially considering its launch power in  smash. Kind of why I was very supscious of Spurge yesterday. If it were say, a yoyo, I wouldn't think as much of it.

I am stuck with probably the worst role in this game. I have done absolutely nothing at night and I really don't like this role I got. It really doesn't help me in this power-heavy game. I am about as confused as you seem to be about who's who.



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Okay... so, I am just going to say that Khan really did target imp... 100% - what exactly was done there is not known to me. Just by the roles so far, I do not really trust the princess claim, but it is also a claim one does feel really bad pushing in, and prof is actually the only mod I think used a princess before...

Khan, if you came up with something like that it would've been really obvious you tried to lie though... so it wouldn't be that wise to do that...



It really hurts us that Radish is not talking too much...



Okay, so - the vote-target-shutdown should be clearly town... this leaves me with... having to find discrepancies in peoples own claims... oh world, why are you so cruel...

We might be left with two scum - which means we might be left with 5 to 2 in worst case - the jester could hint at 3 Mafia + 2 Second Parties too, specially looking at imps role, the SK could've died quite early though, and the poisoner was just a one-shot, basically working as a strongman against the daytime-vote-protection thingy.

so... my personal breakdown

Astro - most likely to be scum out of the people alive, but he is too dangerous to lynch carelessly
imp - tastes a bit scummy, but he makes sense most of the time
Khan - most likely town, is only someone I would look into if I would face of in a 3 players left situation
radish - 100% town, but contributing way too little
hylian - now this is a tasty bit of meat I want to investigate deeper, because of him pushing so hard for khan to believe his role, he honestly flew under my radar for way too long, I wish someone could point me to his first full claim so I can be as lazy as I have been since I defended spurge that much and he basically fucked my efforts over
clyde - I have close to no doubt his role makes him town.

Khan, once again in regards to the radish-spurge fiasko - it doesn't confirm my allegiance in any way - also, you didn't get cockblocked or protected by wonk tonight, because I saw you at imps place, which means you targeted me.

Going by what I have I will...

Finally, I looked it up, prof indeed used the princess before - Round 37 - so he could've used it again.

now, I will build out my case against him in hopefully the next 24 hours.

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