Spurge, you post so much but you say so little.
Though with the number of times you Hebrew said you aren't paying attention I'm not really surprise. In many cases for you it's not just one other persons role that doesn't add up but several.

Khan gets confirmed by hylian. From night 1. As well as Hylian saying you didn't visit Khan night 2.

Stefls role and yoshis. Do come at odds though. Did stefl stop you from getting redirected only to be redirected himself and not stop other actions against you? Or did you get redirected and then anything that came after went to stefl. I'm thinking the first, though that does require yoshiyas actions as targeting both players.

Imp. Something to consider with your role. Your confirmations are a no result, but that could also come up from not being able to scan the player. Had you said you get it as a result saying that the person is clear I'd have known you are lying since I wasn't targetable night 2.
Thankfully, one of your scans is gone and another soon will be.

If by lost you mean confused by the multiple possible explanations all the manipulative roles have introduced, then yeah. I am finding it difficult to track down all the possible paths that the scans and tracks or what not might have taken in this game. It's getting easier as the list of players dwindles down, but I still feel it's more important to test the clear cut results we have, than to try to come up with the possible solutions for why things would be muddled.

For example, when Khan scanned Yoshiya, that settled the lynch for that day for me. When he flipped scum, it reinforced that we did the right thing. Now that we have another successful scan, the lynch is just as obvious today. When you flip scum, it won't really give us much more info than what we already have though. If you are town like you keep claiming, everything gets thrown out of balance. Then we have to assume that Khan might have bussed yoshiya to confirm himself and that's why Yoshiya really didn't bother to put up a defence for example. Or we have to figure out why you came up with a scan if you were clean and rethink Stefl or try to find another redirect possiibility and so on and so on.

Anyway, I agree that I am playing a different game this time around. Mostly it's a case of activity and while it is true that I've made a concious effort to not let the game interfere with my work this time around, it is also because of the role I have been trying to protect. The last game I played with complete abandon. I was pure vanilla town and had nothing to fear from anyone. I didn't care if I got killed or lynched, I didn't have to worry about giving away my abilities, I could basically just say anything I wanted. Playing with the role I have now has turned out to be much different.

So you targeted yourself night 2. You still can't be the SK, but yeah, my results just like any other results from the first couple of Nights might have been compromised by all sorts of weird redirects or deflections or whatnot.

So guys, I'm back :)

After 4 days at hospital, I got home just in time for a electrical storm to destroy the entire infrastructure of the internet in my area. So here I am. Hope to see you all in the next game.

well, day is dead, and I am at a loss too... and don't really want to delve into this too much either right now D: this is bad... I really do not like our current situation...

We have to lynch Spurge. The information we'll gain regardless of his alignment is too strong to pass up.

Vote: Spurge

Yeah, nothing wrong with our current situation... until tomorrow when the game doesn't end and we have to figure out who the missing piece is.

What are the totals? I'm ready to run the stefl immunity scheme again.

I'm thinking that we might have a broken combo. Stefl targets imp and imp targets him back. While scum did have a redirector, we now in theory based on claims have 2 players who could avoid ever being night killed and with 2 it would take 3 scum to lynch them. That's not even covering how we can give out immunity each night and my own role.
I don't think Ryan is the last.
I want to think of a way to test out several people tonight.

So in theory we have full protective roles, myself and imp, though mine also blocks the person I protect.
1 redirection role that in a sense is like a body guard and more (stefl)
1 night kill immunity from the hammer vote.
Thats 4 players that we can make sure are still here tomorrow, dependent on lie(s) and scum roles.

So do we make sure that the protective roles live and one other? If we do that the 4th player would be blocked by me. We could try for a 50/50 again, and I have to pick between 2 targets. Or there is trying to have me target who we think scum might be and try and block any night actions.

I don't want us to go in without a plan, even if the plan is for people to all do what they feel. we need to run some option. All these roles makes this such a different game.

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