By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Mafia Round 70 - Smash Brothers - Wahahaha! Wario Wins! (And Mafia Too I Guess...)

Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:
Even if Spurge turns out to be town (which I doubt, honestly)- I don't think that means Khan is Mafia by any means.


We lynched the mafia redirector.Stefl targeted Khan so any manipulation there would have gone to him instead. Hylian targeted spurge and saw the actions that took place on him. So unless he saw a bus driver as well, if spurge flips town, someone in there is lying.

I saw no manipulative roles.



Around the Network
HylianSwordsman said:
radishhead said:
Even if Spurge turns out to be town (which I doubt, honestly)- I don't think that means Khan is Mafia by any means.


I agree, but I'm wondering what your thoughts are on how this can all be explained then? Khan found Yoshiya, so we know he went somewhere Night 2, yet spurge thinks he didn't go anywhere. But the redirector targeted spurge, but was supposedly blocked by stefl, so how could spurge have been redirected, or manipulated at all for that matter?

For spurge to be telling the truth, there would be more than missing roles out there, but people lying. For day one it would just take him having been redirected to someone who did target khan. For night 2 it would take khan or stefl to be lying. Since you claim you saw yourself scanned night one, it would mean the only possibilities for the liar are spurge or stefl.



HylianSwordsman said:
Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:
Even if Spurge turns out to be town (which I doubt, honestly)- I don't think that means Khan is Mafia by any means.


We lynched the mafia redirector.Stefl targeted Khan so any manipulation there would have gone to him instead. Hylian targeted spurge and saw the actions that took place on him. So unless he saw a bus driver as well, if spurge flips town, someone in there is lying.

I saw no manipulative roles.


Thanks. So if spurge flips town, who do you suspect?

if he flips scum who do you suspect?

Also I will want you to reveal all you saw last night, to try and help confirm you.



Wonktonodi said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Wonktonodi said:
radishhead said:
Even if Spurge turns out to be town (which I doubt, honestly)- I don't think that means Khan is Mafia by any means.


We lynched the mafia redirector.Stefl targeted Khan so any manipulation there would have gone to him instead. Hylian targeted spurge and saw the actions that took place on him. So unless he saw a bus driver as well, if spurge flips town, someone in there is lying.

I saw no manipulative roles.


Thanks. So if spurge flips town, who do you suspect?

if he flips scum who do you suspect?

Also I will want you to reveal all you saw last night, to try and help confirm you.


If spurge flips town, I suspect stefl, because at this point I'm 100% sure of Khan, and short of something incredible, that's not going to change. I confirmed him as cop night one, that's why I asked him to scan me. If that wasn't enough, he found Yoshiya. The question is, why did stefl say he saw Yoshiya then? I have some theories, but I don't know that they're worth exploring just yet. Alternatively, astro is still an option, as if spurge is town, that means that Khan's troops really do the investigating for him, and thus a tracker wouldn't see him go anywhere. I'd say then that Astro might be capable of the same thing with whatever his real role is. Of course, Astro could also have targeted himself, could he not? How exactly do you know he did nothing?

If spurge flips scum, I have to suspect imp, because of what I saw, which I'll explain in a minute. Alternatively, stefl did defend spurge for a while, if I remember, until he finally admitted that spurge had "fooled" him. He defends spurge here saying "from his overreaction to the little proding going in his direction I think he is town". He says here that he thinks spurge is town because he's "acting like ever". He defends spurge again here, says he believes the tracker claim. As a side note, there's this post where he says he doesn't want to support a radish vote, and wants to vote WhiteEagle (in his defense, Radish wasn't confirmed yet and WE was acting weird, and he did admit that padib was scummy later on before padib was lynched, but he never voted for padib). And then there's this post. He says he was going to open the day with a "certain action" if radish hadn't convinced him he was town, implying that stefl has a day action, contrary to what he's already said. His power is already crazy enough, being a localized lightning rod/watcher, but apparently he has a day power too? Honestly, if stefl is scum, there's no telling what powers he has, since he's kirby.

Anyway, I didn't want to say what I saw at first because it has serious implications if Imp is town and I reveal this to scum. However, Imp is now in the Smash match, so with the implications of his actions, I may as well say what I saw. What I saw last night was that spurge was protected. Like, from kills, presumably. As in, with spurge saying that he tracked Imp, and that the result was that Imp targeted spurge, and now this morning with Imp saying he did indeed visit spurge, I can only conclude that spurge being protected means that Imp did the protecting. He is a doctor or some variation thereof. Why was he targeting spurge? I don't know. The only hints of vigs we've had are Clyde's day power he's cautious to use and stefl's "certain action", also hinted as day. So why would a doctor target scum? There doesn't seem to be a reason for scum to have a doctor.



spurgeonryan said:
Its hylian or Khan when I flip town. If there are more.....then good luck town!

Twice Khan has come up crazy for me. Last night with the bat and the other night not moving.

Then hylian not only being as crazy as nickles on me but also telling Wonk he saw no redirddct roles.

There is astro. But...it is usually the quiet ones this game....so Clyde and astro...that is what you all have.
If there are more than one scum left, then lynching me st this point will hurt a lot when I flip town.


there are 9 of us now, we lynch you you flip town and is scum are sucessful in the night the next day there will be 7

If 3 scum (very unlikely) we'd have to be right with the lynch,

If 2 we could misslynch again (6) scum succeds again (5)

and then we have 5 people for the next day with 2 of them scum. if we are smart with, the hammer vote as well as protections, we could very well have a confirmed townie or 2 in there.

Lynching you will either prove you scum or confirm your story and give us a good pool where the scum could be.



Around the Network
HylianSwordsman said:


If spurge flips town, I suspect stefl, because at this point I'm 100% sure of Khan, and short of something incredible, that's not going to change. I confirmed him as cop night one, that's why I asked him to scan me. If that wasn't enough, he found Yoshiya. The question is, why did stefl say he saw Yoshiya then? I have some theories, but I don't know that they're worth exploring just yet. Alternatively, astro is still an option, as if spurge is town, that means that Khan's troops really do the investigating for him, and thus a tracker wouldn't see him go anywhere. I'd say then that Astro might be capable of the same thing with whatever his real role is. Of course, Astro could also have targeted himself, could he not? How exactly do you know he did nothing?

SNIP

Anyway, I didn't want to say what I saw at first because it has serious implications if Imp is town and I reveal this to scum. However, Imp is now in the Smash match, so with the implications of his actions, I may as well say what I saw. What I saw last night was that spurge was protected. Like, from kills, presumably. As in, with spurge saying that he tracked Imp, and that the result was that Imp targeted spurge, and now this morning with Imp saying he did indeed visit spurge, I can only conclude that spurge being protected means that Imp did the protecting. He is a doctor or some variation thereof. Why was he targeting spurge? I don't know. The only hints of vigs we've had are Clyde's day power he's cautious to use and stefl's "certain action", also hinted as day. So why would a doctor target scum? There doesn't seem to be a reason for scum to have a doctor.

@ bold. My role is like a modiefed jailkeeper. So my target can't be targeted, or do any actions. I mentioned the second part yesterDay to try and prevent anyone from wasting a night action on him. while I didn't reveal the second part until now so that if he was scum they might have had him do something.

Another protection role. Now that is intersting.

some other things that I haven't brought up today that I recently thought of. There was the poisoner? Do we think a one time thing? A Scum with a jack of all trade like powers?

the missing info? I'm thinking it's most likely from a scum janitor, though I'm still not sure if that's the only role that scum would have or if it just happens. Though what about nickels?



spurgeonryan said:
Its hylian or Khan when I flip town. If there are more.....then good luck town!

Twice Khan has come up crazy for me. Last night with the bat and the other night not moving.

Then hylian not only being as crazy as nickles on me but also telling Wonk he saw no redirddct roles.

There is astro. But...it is usually the quiet ones this game....so Clyde and astro...that is what you all have.
If there are more than one scum left, then lynching me st this point will hurt a lot when I flip town.

Didn't you claim Ness before? Why wouldn't you have a bat?



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

So I guess the cat is out of the bag; Hylian is right, I was at Spurge's last night and I did protect him. In addition I can add that I believe the poisoning of Nickles was done by a serial killer and that Spurge is not that SK (neither are/were Smeags and Wonk). I also think that with a third party jester and a strong likelihood of a third party SK that there is just one scum team and thus no longer a bus driver in play. Which means that I think either Spurge is indeed carrying a bat around or Khan is lying about it. I am very convinced Spurge is scum.



Really i'd just say wait until stefl's online again and wrap this up, just like last time. He's at l-2 already.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

spurgeonryan said:
So you protected me why? Crazy after what everyone said about me. Why would you? Scum obviously would not waste a kill on me and if I was scum it would waste a protetion as well.

by the way, i haven never been in a game where someone saw who protected them. It keeps the identity of a doctor safe by not doing that.

Are you lying imp? Or did you realy waste a protection on this mafia games most wanted?

I protected you because I am not a traditional doctor and we had already secured protection for the cop through the hammer vote for Stefl. I'll explain more later today when I am back home.