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archer9234 on 27 September 2014
the_dengle said:
archer9234 said:
the_dengle said:
archer9234 said:

I don't care. She's not Wonder Woman. MC can call armadas. The fight has to be resticted under certain rules for it to be completly fair. No outside force intervention. And the most diffucilt, which suits do each one wears that has equal abilties. Without having an ability that will make one win in one shot.

You want to deliberately gimp Samus so that she's not overpowered? Alright, take away her power suit and break one of her legs. Then it's a fight.

And no. This is how you'd make it unbalanced. Samus' has her Phazon suit. It then can corrupt the functions of MC suit, auto win. MC has Armor Lock. She can't do nothing tell he ends it. Then it's EMP blast shuts her suit down. To make it fair. Chief must use the Mark 5 Halo armor. And Samus must use her default Varia Suit.

Again, if you want it to be "fair," you should put Samus in the Zero Suit. And handicap her in some way. Her body is a biological weapon. Master Chief vs Samus is like Captain America vs Thor. Cap and Chief are supersoldiers, sure, but they are still human. Samus and Thor are not human. Letting Samus wear the Varia Suit would be like giving Thor an Iron Man suit.

Her suit has a handicap. It can't recharge like MC. MC can hide from cover or engage Armor Lock and wait it out. While some of her weapons and health need pickups.



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DaltonAbbey on 27 September 2014
WolfpackN64 said:
While Samus has a larger arsenal 


wink wink



I3LuEI3omI3eR on 27 September 2014
archer9234 said:
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
archer9234 said:
Clyde32 said:
archer9234 said:

Since there's no restrictions in the fight. MC. By pure help numbers. 


Samus mows down Space Pirates like she is mowing down grass. 

 

I don't care. She's not Wonder Woman. MC can call armadas. The fight has to be resticted under certain rules for it to be completly fair. No outside force intervention. And the most diffucilt, which suits do each one wears that has equal abilties. Without having an ability that will make one win in one shot.


Your right she's not Wonder Woman. IMO in her final game suit she's stronger. If you played any of her games (especially Super Metroid), she is clearly one of the most broken characters in Video game history.

This should be a concept of a game!! Samus is onboard an Ancient Chozo planet ran by Master Chief's armies and himself. She'd probably take care of the army with hit and run techniques like she does in all her games and leaving Master Chief as the final boss. Only he won't be much of a Final Boss...

I played all the games. I still do not buy it that she can kill all the ships and alies of the MC, if they all attacked at once. She isn't involunrable. Her suit fails her every freaking time at a start of a game. Which them leaves you going: Why doesn't other races do that? And then were back to square one. The fight is impossible because of all the bs each characters circimstances are in.

Hence, why MC and his Army are on a Ancient Chozo planet. So she can discover all her power ups. .

All I'm saying is Full Power up Samus beats Full Powered up MC. Simple.



the_dengle on 27 September 2014
archer9234 said:

Her suit has a handicap. It can't recharge like MC. MC can hide from cover or engage Armor Lock and wait it out. While some of her weapons and health need pickups.

Wait what out? Armor lock lasts 5 seconds and immobilizes Chief. That just gives Samus a free 5 seconds to get into an advantageous position... or, you know, drop a power bomb right under him. Same way you deal with Armor Lock in Halo multiplayer, only power bombs are a "little" stronger than your regular military grenades.

I doubt the EMP would affect Samus. It certainly wouldn't do anything to the Zero Suit or the Fusion Suit.



I3LuEI3omI3eR on 27 September 2014
the_dengle said:
archer9234 said:
the_dengle said:
archer9234 said:

I don't care. She's not Wonder Woman. MC can call armadas. The fight has to be resticted under certain rules for it to be completly fair. No outside force intervention. And the most diffucilt, which suits do each one wears that has equal abilties. Without having an ability that will make one win in one shot.

You want to deliberately gimp Samus so that she's not overpowered? Alright, take away her power suit and break one of her legs. Then it's a fight.

And no. This is how you'd make it unbalanced. Samus' has her Phazon suit. It then can corrupt the functions of MC suit, auto win. MC has Armor Lock. She can't do nothing tell he ends it. Then it's EMP blast shuts her suit down. To make it fair. Chief must use the Mark 5 Halo armor. And Samus must use her default Varia Suit.

Again, if you want it to be "fair," you should put Samus in the Zero Suit. And handicap her in some way. Her body is a biological weapon. Master Chief vs Samus is like Captain America vs Thor. Cap and Chief are supersoldiers, sure, but they are still human. Samus and Thor are not human. Letting Samus wear the Varia Suit would be like giving Thor an Iron Man suit.

But Samus without her power suit is like Tony Stark without his Iron Man suit. Still deadly yes, but it's definitely what makes them"Super".



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archer9234 on 27 September 2014
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
archer9234 said:
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
archer9234 said:
Clyde32 said:
archer9234 said:

Since there's no restrictions in the fight. MC. By pure help numbers. 


Samus mows down Space Pirates like she is mowing down grass. 

 

I don't care. She's not Wonder Woman. MC can call armadas. The fight has to be resticted under certain rules for it to be completly fair. No outside force intervention. And the most diffucilt, which suits do each one wears that has equal abilties. Without having an ability that will make one win in one shot.


Your right she's not Wonder Woman. IMO in her final game suit she's stronger. If you played any of her games (especially Super Metroid), she is clearly one of the most broken characters in Video game history.

This should be a concept of a game!! Samus is onboard an Ancient Chozo planet ran by Master Chief's armies and himself. She'd probably take care of the army with hit and run techniques like she does in all her games and leaving Master Chief as the final boss. Only he won't be much of a Final Boss...

I played all the games. I still do not buy it that she can kill all the ships and alies of the MC, if they all attacked at once. She isn't involunrable. Her suit fails her every freaking time at a start of a game. Which them leaves you going: Why doesn't other races do that? And then were back to square one. The fight is impossible because of all the bs each characters circimstances are in.

Hence, why MC and his Army are on a Ancient Chozo planet. So she can discover all her power ups. .

All I'm saying is Full Power up Samus beats Full Powered up MC. Simple.

Yes. That is no question. If you put full power up Samus with all health and suit upgrades. And give MC everything he can use at maxium with no form of exterior support. Samus wins. Her tech is better. I want a more fair fight. That can try to be balance. But you really can't. You'd run into: some crap that happend here, but then he did this here. And then the fight can't happen.

the_dengle said:
archer9234 said:

Her suit has a handicap. It can't recharge like MC. MC can hide from cover or engage Armor Lock and wait it out. While some of her weapons and health need pickups.

Wait what out? Armor lock lasts 5 seconds and immobilizes Chief. That just gives Samus a free 5 seconds to get into an advantageous position... or, you know, drop a power bomb right under him. Same way you deal with Armor Lock in Halo multiplayer, only power bombs are a "little" stronger than your regular military grenades.

I doubt the EMP would affect Samus. It certainly wouldn't do anything to the Zero Suit or the Fusion Suit.

I picture this fight with the games mechianices, but not the games controlling limitations. Because I'd use Armor lock as a offensive shield. Say this: Samus is firing her arm cannon. MC can run towards her. And engage armor. While in mid air, slam into her, and turn it off. EMPing the suit. I sure as hell would love to see what would happen if someone grabbed you, and activated Armor Lock. Would you get ripped apart by the shield? How about Samus grab MC and go into morph ball. That's a instant win.

Things like that make it more harder of a fight. Now under MP game rules, then yes. Lock can be defeated. So then does the fight happen within gaming rules? Of who's universe? Or does it follow real life applications of the tech. MC would have a bigger advantage if the fight took place in the Halo universe. The knife is one hit kill.



BradleyJ on 27 September 2014
BraveNewWorld said:
One thing to keep in mind is their physical size.

Master Chief is 7'2" 2.18 meters and 995lbs 451.3kg (In his suit)

Samus Aran is 6'3" 1.90 meters and 198lbs 89.9kg (Outside of suit) -- So in her suit you can add a little height and a lot of weight.

How has nobody questioned this? Given her physique, how is it even remotely possible for her to weigh this much? I know she's tall (much, much taller than I would have imagined), but 200 pounds? Really? For an arbitrary comparison, Chris Evans in his Captain America role didn't even weigh 200 pounds (I think he was a little over 180) and he is 6 feet tall himself. And look at him:

Yet you're telling me that Samus weighs even more than him and she looks like this:

 

I don't think so!



archer9234 on 27 September 2014
BradleyJ said:
BraveNewWorld said:
One thing to keep in mind is their physical size.

Master Chief is 7'2" 2.18 meters and 995lbs 451.3kg (In his suit)

Samus Aran is 6'3" 1.90 meters and 198lbs 89.9kg (Outside of suit) -- So in her suit you can add a little height and a lot of weight.

How has nobody questioned this? Given her physique, how is it even remotely possible for her to weigh this much? I know she's tall (much, much taller than I would have imagined), but 200 pounds? Really? For an arbitrary comparison, Chris Evans in his Captain America role didn't even weigh 200 pounds (I think he was a little over 180) and he is 6 feet tall himself. And look at him:

Yet you're telling me that Samus weighs even more than him and she looks like this:

 

I don't think so!

Muscle density. This is how Hulk and She-Hulk strength is explained. Another option is Samus is actually built but artist don't want to draw her like that. Non humans muscle system is different. Or you just go, Fuck it.



Clyde32 on 27 September 2014
BradleyJ said:

How has nobody questioned this? Given her physique, how is it even remotely possible for her to weigh this much? I know she's tall (much, much taller than I would have imagined), but 200 pounds? Really? For an arbitrary comparison, Chris Evans in his Captain America role didn't even weigh 200 pounds (I think he was a little over 180) and he is 6 feet tall himself. And look at him:

Yet you're telling me that Samus weighs even more than him and she looks like this:

 

I don't think so!

Chozo DNA man.



the_dengle on 27 September 2014
I3LuEI3omI3eR said:

But Samus without her power suit is like Tony Stark without his Iron Man suit. Still deadly yes, but it's definitely what makes them"Super".

Samus is not human. It's difficult to gain a proper perspective of it because humans are rarely seen in Metroid games, and we've never seen Samus fight one before. But I think it's pretty straightforward that Samus is more than human. She has alien DNA. As of Fusion, she is three species simultaneously, and she is more formidable than the sum of their parts.