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he specifically said that wright was mentioned.
wright confirmed he was there.



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padib said:
theprof00 said:
So you think spurge is lying then?

He hasn't fully claimed, so I'm not sure if he is. So far I understood he got a scum read on you, and on that I fully agree with him.

There is no reason for you to be alive toDay, that Nickles and Hylian were murdered on Night 1 (your vendetta signature), or that your roles hold up to scrutiny.

But town is too blind to see that.


Tos and I think prof is scum, we're just frustrated by Ryan's vote and lack of a real claim even when asked multiple times about it.

Most the town has been overwhelmed or away.



Why would the nuker stick his neck out to block someone who was preparing a weapon that hurts protoss.
it doesn't make sense.



padib said:
Wonktonodi said:
padib said:

As I said, I was hit with an EMP and the attacker was Wright. I don't understand what is complicated about this. I didn't even know that an EMP was a ghost skill when it was first revealed, so how could I have invented the EMP attack when I didn't even know it was a ghost skill?

How would I know about the flavor, the large object hitting me and the EMP charges?

It is either I am lying or Wright is lying, but it's quite clear that I revealed my night attack much before Wright, and that I didn't invent it since I even misinterpreted that it was a Dark Templar attack...

not clear or concise 5 hours ago, for this I wasnsn't sure if you were assuming wright was the attacker since you knew he targeted you, all the other details of stuff you not knowing just made the point less clear to understand

I understand, it's a busy thread and I need to be more patient... sigh

But here is the link to my clarification on it. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6697532


Thanks for the link, I apreciate yourconfdence in how things are, since you figure that if you are attacked and targeted for a scan you'd think both would be reported, even if you couldn't identify one of the attackes because of their roles.

I still fear a possible role that would let scum mess that up, though what I will eventually recomend for the towns plan of attack will be based on what seems best to handle many possibilities including those more likely than this.



theprof00 said:
Why would the nuker stick his neck out to block someone who was preparing a weapon that hurts protoss.
it doesn't make sense.


wright, padib and ryan all have done many things that wouldn't make sence for the nuker.



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It's a shame we have to worry about the nuke first and let prof live, but that's the game I guess.

Despite all this bickering and people not being able to see past the meta, we have not moved of the basic premise. Padib and Wright can't both be telling the truth. Easiest way to check is to lynch wright. If padib has this crazy role we're done with the nuke and can get rid of the scum and WoW has indeed put together a crazy game. Flipping wright also tests profs claims. If wright does flip town and cop to boot, the nuke is almost certainly Spurge.

If we flip padib and he checks out according to his claim we'll still have scum trying to pretend wright just happened to be there when the ghost attacked padib and we're running in circles. Perhaps town would have the sense to lynch wright next, but I can already imagine the fun with that scenario. If padibs flip shows he's been lying we're in trouble as it doesn't lead directly to anyone being the nuke (though many would suspect spurge probably)
If we flip Spurge we might or might not get lucky.If he is indeed the nuke, good news appart from prof becoming even more intolerable. If he is not the nuke we're stuck in a similar rut. Who is the nuke then, we'd have to go by the word of a claimed slapper who is lying through his teeth and the claimed nuke who prof has gone to extreme steps to defend.

The best lynch is wright, and now prof can tear into the illogical reasoning for many pages if he'd like. I invite other players to consider this reasoning and give your critisism of the reasoning



padib said:
Wonktonodi said:

you're far from the only one.

I'm frustrated myself with a lot of people. was almost ready to cuss you out in responce, but it's a game, and we aren't in a hurry :)

Prof was far to eager to just believe wright, but as I pointed out to TOS if he was right you arent the nuke.

A few other things to think about though.

Remember how you were saying you wouldn't do certain things if you were the nuker? One of the few things I agree with prof currently is why would wright do what he did as nuker?

In your case you might do what you do because you have more abilities that you haven't said that could make your win more likely (not a liekly senario)

In wrights, he might have read something wrong early on and thus was sure he was arguing in the protown way when in reality he wasn't.

Another senario is that you both are what you say you are and scum have manipulative roles that switched things. One that isn't the most likely but I'm not ready to rule out yet.

Thanks for understanding and for your reply above.

Do you remember the lists that prof and cone started fabricating suddnely once Wright made his claim? If those lists are made by scum, they would be designed for a reason: to divert town's attention far away from the Ghost (the presumed Cop himself). So if you're wondering why Wright is doing all this, it's because it was designed within his scum team to ensure a victory.

Do you remember how Wright asked prof to claim a role and prof just ignored him? We got that behavior repeatedly last game when mafia were poking at each other but the other mafia would just ignore it. They ignored it because noone else would really be keeping an eye on that, and they didn't themselves feel threatened or care at all.

Getting also back to my other  question, do you really think I am that smart, that I would create a plan so early to frame Wright and play it out so perfectly? Isn't it simpler to see that Wright is lying about his scan on me and his role?

Also, why would I want to push the idea that Wright is lying about his scan on me? I have been suspected of being the Ghost all day? What motive would I have to do that?

I really don't think mafia and the nuker are on the same team. not with a 4 day limit. No I think the nuke is on his own with te limit to give him a better chance at victory since it's usually very hard for a solo scum to win.

I think you're smart and you could have tools that could make it possible for you to know enough to make some claims, however I do think the more simple solutions is that wright tried to pick a roll that he could use well. If he's the nuker, he could with confidence say that any player he wants isn't the nuker, he just didn't expect to get called out on you knowing what also happend to you.



impertinence said:
It's a shame we have to worry about the nuke first and let prof live, but that's the game I guess.

Despite all this bickering and people not being able to see past the meta, we have not moved of the basic premise. Padib and Wright can't both be telling the truth. Easiest way to check is to lynch wright. If padib has this crazy role we're done with the nuke and can get rid of the scum and WoW has indeed put together a crazy game. Flipping wright also tests profs claims. If wright does flip town and cop to boot, the nuke is almost certainly Spurge.

If we flip padib and he checks out according to his claim we'll still have scum trying to pretend wright just happened to be there when the ghost attacked padib and we're running in circles. Perhaps town would have the sense to lynch wright next, but I can already imagine the fun with that scenario. If padibs flip shows he's been lying we're in trouble as it doesn't lead directly to anyone being the nuke (though many would suspect spurge probably)
If we flip Spurge we might or might not get lucky.If he is indeed the nuke, good news appart from prof becoming even more intolerable. If he is not the nuke we're stuck in a similar rut. Who is the nuke then, we'd have to go by the word of a claimed slapper who is lying through his teeth and the claimed nuke who prof has gone to extreme steps to defend.

The best lynch is wright, and now prof can tear into the illogical reasoning for many pages if he'd like. I invite other players to consider this reasoning and give your critisism of the reasoning


I do agree that he's the best choice, though I might add that we have prof use his day kill to do it instead of a lynch. results are the same but we can also test prof on something as well.



and also if wright doesn't flip nuker padib kills eric night 3



padib said:
Wonktonodi said:
and also if wright doesn't flip nuker padib kills eric night 3

Help me push a Wright lynch and I will kill eric night 3.

hopefull it will be a push to prof using his claimed kill.

there would still be the matter of who we should request the claimed scanners target. I have no problem with whomeever we as a town decide is best (nice things is some regards about this is even if scum target the same targets or the claimed powers we get useful information, or one less questionmark gone. I imagine it being myself and imp, though I could seem arguments made for other player.