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Nintendo can't compete with smart devices, even though they were making touchscreen mainstream when iPods were still competing wth Walkmans.

SONY can't compete with smart devices, Nintendo can.

What's the one kind of gaming smart devices could never compete with? Full motion control. Was Nintendo 10 years ahead of the curve again?

Without CD player, DVD player, Blu Rah player, you'll strugle to convince the wife why you need a console. No-one has ever taken into account the real effect the Wii had on XB360 and PS3 sales. NO-ONE.

The Wii sold PS3s and 360s.

 

Imagine Wii Sports was never invented. Imagine we didn't see it in 2006 or 2010 or 2014.

Does anybody think Wii Fit and Wii Sports wouldn't have helped make some piece of hardware sell nearly 100million whether in 2006 or 2014+?

Would Google or Apple or Samsung make Wii Sports? No. They aren't interested, it's not their primary focus. They're not in the content creation business.

The decline is a blessing........and there will be a decline.

It's time to cut the crap. No more prostituting the casual to fellate your artistic hardon. The casuals are king. The gaming well dried up with the casual CoD crowd and nothing is gonna match CoD this gen thus nothing will sell consoles  like CoD MODERN WARFARE did.

Nintendo (like HBO in TV world) are the only entertainment maker who truly know and understand the CORE, not the 'we can afford to piss away $4billion on a prayer core' but the real  CORE.

This stands them in very good stead for the future. Against Sony/MS or Samsung/Google.

Sony/MS are not content creators at their core. They get pummelled by Acti and Ubi. Yet Nintendo smashes all of them in the content creation sphere.



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

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so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?



kitler53 said:
so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?


Is HBO a 3rd party?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?


Is HBO a 3rd party?


yes. 



kitler53 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?


Is HBO a 3rd party?


yes. 


You pay a premium for HBO thouh right? They're not the regular run of the mill crap are they? They're game changers? Unless I've completely misunderstood HBO.

Who would be first party in this example?



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Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?


Is HBO a 3rd party?


yes. 


You pay a premium for HBO thouh right? They're not the regular run of the mill crap are they? They're game changers? Unless I've completely misunderstood HBO. 

can you watch HBO's content without first subcribing to comcast, direct tv or some other cable tv service?  nope, they are third party in that they are dependand on someone else investing in creating and maintaining the physical serives in which HBO' content is delivered on. 

they can focus on content because someone else is focusing on delivery.  so when nintendo goes third party i agree, they will dominat the software charts on xbox and playstation. 



kitler53 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
kitler53 said:
so what your saying is once nintendo goes third party they will dominat?


Is HBO a 3rd party?


yes. 


You pay a premium for HBO thouh right? They're not the regular run of the mill crap are they? They're game changers? Unless I've completely misunderstood HBO. 

can you watch HBO's content without first subcribing to comcast, direct tv or some other cable tv service?  nope, they are third party in that they are dependand on someone else investing in creating and maintaining the physical serives in which HBO' content is delivered on. 

they can focus on content because someone else is focusing on delivery.  so when nintendo goes third party i agree, they will dominat the software charts on xbox and playstation. 


(Illegally yes. And Pirates usually lead the way in regards to tech.)

But Comcast and direct TV would be nothing if some else didn't invest in TVs and cable boxes, right?

And if nobody cares about the TV and cable box maker and the internet make 'deliverers' obsolete, then it all comes down to the content creators, no?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

Pyro as Bill said:

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  you watch HBO's content without first subcribing to comcast, direct tv or some other cable tv service?  nope, they are third party in that they are dependand on someone else investing in creating and maintaining the physical serives in which HBO' content is delivered on. 

they can focus on content because someone else is focusing on delivery.  so when nintendo goes third party i agree, they will dominat the software charts on xbox and playstation. 


But Comcast and direct TV would be nothing if some else didn't invest in TVs and cable boxes, right?

And if nobody cares about the TV and cable box maker and the internet make 'deliverers' obsolete, then it all comes down to the content creators, no?


and no one cares about content without a viable platform to consume it 

 

you can say that nintendo makes the worlds best content and casuals are frothing at the mouth for more. i will disagree since all of nintendo's frachises are flopping this gen but lets indulge you for a moment.  consumers won't invest in a platform that doesn't support a healthy amount of content satisfying a wide variety of consumer tastes.  nintendo has shown for generations now a reluctance to do what is needed to cultivate relationships with any other content developer.  

in a battle of nintendo versus the industry nintendo loses. it killed the wii. it killed the wiiU. 

nintendo, in video games, has the dimmest future if they continue they current strategy. 



kitler53 said:
Pyro as Bill said:

...

  you watch HBO's content without first subcribing to comcast, direct tv or some other cable tv service?  nope, they are third party in that they are dependand on someone else investing in creating and maintaining the physical serives in which HBO' content is delivered on. 

they can focus on content because someone else is focusing on delivery.  so when nintendo goes third party i agree, they will dominat the software charts on xbox and playstation. 


But Comcast and direct TV would be nothing if some else didn't invest in TVs and cable boxes, right?

And if nobody cares about the TV and cable box maker and the internet make 'deliverers' obsolete, then it all comes down to the content creators, no?


and no one cares about content without a viable platform to consume it 

 

you can say that nintendo makes the worlds best content and casuals are frothing at the mouth for more. i will disagree since all of nintendo's frachises are flopping this gen but lets indulge you for a moment.  consumers won't invest in a platform that doesn't support a healthy amount of content satisfying a wide variety of consumer tastes.  nintendo has shown for generations now a reluctance to do what is needed to cultivate relationships with any other content developer.  

in a battle of nintendo versus the industry nintendo loses. it killed the wii. it killed the wiiU. 

nintendo, in video games, has the dimmest future if they continue they current strategy. 


@bolded. Nonsense. The people who were causing the Wii to be sold out for 3 holidays couldnt care less about what was coming next. The content creators Nintendo was reluctant to work with (ex CoD (btw if SNES-NES builds can be done, there was no excuse for lack of CoD or Street Fighter 4)) were not market expanders. CoD has maxed the market (MOBAs might be this gen's saviour but wont expand anything).

Nintendo joined the industry in killing the Wii. They should have killed the industry instead.

What exactly do you mean by viable platform? Something able to play CoD and Minecraft?



Nov 2016 - NES outsells PS1 (JP)

Don't Play Stationary 4 ever. Switch!

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