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spemanig said:
small44 said:
Final Fantasy,Kindoms Heart,Metal Gear Solid sold the most in console and as long as those games are on ps4 it can't fail


You sound like a Wii U owner. The PS4 is already a failure there.

Kingdom Hearts sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Final Fantasy 13 sold 2 million on the PS3. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in Japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Metal Gear Solid 4 sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

NSMBU has outsold both Kingdom Hearts and MGS4 in Japan for perspective. Wii Party U has sold only 100k less than those two in Japan for perspective. FFXV, KH3, and MGS5 will, without a shadow of a doubt, do worse on the PS4 in Japan than any of their predisessors, because the PS4 itself is tracking far behind all of its predisessors.

The PS4 won't bounce back. Those games will slightly boost sales temperily. That's obvious. The PS4 will continue to fail there, though. Just be glad it isn't failing everywhere, like the Wii U is.

Japan doesn't care about Mario Kart either. MK Wii may have sold nearly 4m there, but the Wii U is tracking far behind the Wii. A more accurate comparison is MK DD, which sold less than 1m there. SSBM sold just over 1m there. Those games won't save the Wii U in Japan either.

Console gaming is dead there. That includes the PS4 and the Wii U.


Mario Kart been number one on Amazon Japan like all week.



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Justagamer said:
I think it already is a bigger flop.... Considering some of the sales predictions from some on this site. I think I remember some saying it would launch to a million sales, then have huge weekly numbers. Well, neither has happened. I do think the ps4 will look up when actual games come out, but no system, will ever see huge success again in Japan. The last one was the wii. None will come close to the wii numbers in Japan again, the ps4 included.


I think this is the most apt comment so far. Consoles are pretty much dead in Japan. It's mostly mobile all the way and that is, sadly, the 3DS and phones.



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PigPen said:
spemanig said:
small44 said:
Final Fantasy,Kindoms Heart,Metal Gear Solid sold the most in console and as long as those games are on ps4 it can't fail


You sound like a Wii U owner. The PS4 is already a failure there.

Kingdom Hearts sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Final Fantasy 13 sold 2 million on the PS3. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in Japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Metal Gear Solid 4 sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

NSMBU has outsold both Kingdom Hearts and MGS4 in Japan for perspective. Wii Party U has sold only 100k less than those two in Japan for perspective. FFXV, KH3, and MGS5 will, without a shadow of a doubt, do worse on the PS4 in Japan than any of their predisessors, because the PS4 itself is tracking far behind all of its predisessors.

The PS4 won't bounce back. Those games will slightly boost sales temperily. That's obvious. The PS4 will continue to fail there, though. Just be glad it isn't failing everywhere, like the Wii U is.

Japan doesn't care about Mario Kart either. MK Wii may have sold nearly 4m there, but the Wii U is tracking far behind the Wii. A more accurate comparison is MK DD, which sold less than 1m there. SSBM sold just over 1m there. Those games won't save the Wii U in Japan either.

Console gaming is dead there. That includes the PS4 and the Wii U.


Mario Kart been number one like all week.


Compared to what, exactly?



spemanig said:

Compared to what, exactly?


Number one on Amazon Japan.



PigPen said:

Number one on Amazon Japan.


You do know that that means absolutely nothing, right?



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Nah, japanese third parties will keep making games for PS4 no matter how low sales are, it'll get lots of PES and musou games; and later Grand Theft Auto.



spemanig said:

You do know that that means absolutely nothing, right?

Sales mean everything.



PigPen said:

Sales mean everything.


Amazon Japan preorder rank is not the same as "sales."



spurgeonryan said:
Look at PS3 and 2 before it. Things will turn around. Probably about the time Nintendo is done with the Wii u.


No, they won't.



spemanig said:
PigPen said:

Sales mean everything.


Amazon Japan preorder rank is not the same as "sales."


Preorders are sales.