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Quality of NES, SNES and N64 games versus Wii and now Wii U games. The relaunch of classic Nintendo games on the handhelds have generated lots of sales for Gameboy DS and now the 3DS.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
Quality of NES, SNES and N64 games versus Wii and now Wii U games. The relaunch of classic Nintendo games on the handhelds have generated lots of sales for Gameboy DS and now the 3DS.

interesting point



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QuintonMcLeod said:
kirby007 said:

If anything, I think Miyamoto should take on a more active role when possible. I understand that he's mentoring a bunch of younger people right now, but I think that if given a medium-sized studio to work with, he could have a more hands on role and create, say, one last great IP before retiring.



I believe he is currently making a new IP. Hopefully it'll be shown at E3!

Veknoid_Outcast said:
Shigeru Miyamoto was, is, and will probably always be the best video game creator this industry has ever seen.

He's earned the right to do whatever he wants to do, including retiring according to his own schedule and on his own terms.

Oh come on he aint that great, all he did was Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, Donkey Kong, Ice Climber, Kid Icarus, F-Zero, Yoshi... the list, IT NEVER ENDS. SAVE MEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!  



RolStoppable said:

Miyamoto is on the board of directors and oversees all game development of Nintendo. Subsequently, Miyamoto also has a strong influence on the hardware design, because Nintendo shapes its hardware to suit the software it plans to make. So the question that needs to be asked is why is Iwata always the sole scapegoat while Miyamoto is hailed as a god.

I am not calling for Miyamoto's retirement, I am saying that he needs to be held accountable too. Nintendo's post-Yamauchi hierarchy is a board of directors, not a sole man at the top.

I'm aware of his responsibilities, and as far as I know, he has never rejected them. The fact that he's training others for the future of Nintendo should be proof enough of this. Most developers don't care as much, just look to achieve their own personal goals instead.

I don't disagree that he should be accountable for any decision he makes within Nintendo per se, but I believe he has earned the right to choose his own path. Nintendo as a whole should already be ready to not depend on him, and to put the responsibility of the entire 1st party lineup on a single person is absurd, regardless of what his title implies. There's clearly a lot of "middlemen" involved here that end up having just as much influence on the titles as he does or more. He's basically on "overtime" here, with anything he adds to Nintendo today being an extra for the future. At least, this is how I see it.

I do agree that people in general also put too much blame on Iwata. The responsibility should be distributed among all parts accountable, according to the place of each individual and actions taken. For example, Iwata can't be blamed for every "bad" game Nintendo makes or any flaw in hardware design, just the decision to greenlight it at the time (among other things). The likes of Katsuya Eguchi, Takashi Tezuka, Eiji Aonuma, etc have their own responsibilities here, as well as their own successes. Ideally, we should all be aware of who does what and make our own opinions from there, but I guess that's just not possible... And since Iwata is the president, it's just easier to dump everything on him instead...



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I would retire if people started calling me Shiggy.

Which is btw the German name for Squirtle ;)



If you demand respect or gratitude for your volunteer work, you're doing volunteering wrong.

If what sells is all that gamers want, alas we all want more call of duty.

I think that simplistic rationale is insulting to both game creators and gamers.



Focus group testing gave us Fuse. Miyamoto testing gave us Pikmin. I don't agree with your reasoning in the OP.

Otherwise, I don't really know enough about the situation to call for his retirement.



So, Pikmin 3 feels out of touch now? And Super Mario 3D World too? I really don't think Miyamoto lost his touch. He must be so busy right now trying to pump out games for Nintendo. He works so hard.



I don´t think so, we are the idiots for thinking that geniouses should work like us dumb mortals do, let Shigeru do their thing and also, have normal dev teams doing the western way, with braimstorms, test groups and whatever.



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