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LivingMetal on 19 March 2014
padib said:
LivingMetal said:
padib said:

I never played any since X, so I guess that's close enough to agreeing. :P

I don't think it's really important what may have pushed the PS3 past the 360 if it's only 2% of the total sales, despite the timing. What matters is the 98% of sales.

Also, what jrpgs were so important, can you name a few titles?


All of them as long as they push sales.

Again, the importance of relative thinking can't be under emphasized. This is my demonstration to you of the opposite:

Top sellers on PS3 globally (jrpgs bold-underlined):

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Grand Theft Auto V PS3 2013 Action Take-Two Interactive 5.76 7.32 0.71 3.18 16.97
2 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Activision 5.35 5.46 0.49 1.46 12.76
3 Call of Duty: Black Ops PS3 2010 Shooter Activision 5.78 4.15 0.48 1.68 12.09
4 Call of Duty: Black Ops II PS3 2012 Shooter Activision 4.64 5.08 0.53 0.84 11.09
5 Gran Turismo 5 PS3 2010 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 2.81 4.67 0.81 2.60 10.88
6 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PS3 2009 Shooter Activision 4.90 3.50 0.38 1.55 10.32
7 Grand Theft Auto IV PS3 2008 Action Take-Two Interactive 4.58 3.54 0.43 1.51 10.07
8 Call of Duty: Ghosts PS3 2013 Shooter Activision 3.15 2.77 0.36 1.26 7.54
9 FIFA Soccer 13 PS3 2012 Action Electronic Arts 1.00 4.85 0.12 1.17 7.15
10 Battlefield 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Electronic Arts 2.73 2.76 0.34 0.99 6.83
11 FIFA Soccer 12 PS3 2011 Sports Electronic Arts 0.80 4.23 0.11 1.35 6.48
12 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare PS3 2007 Shooter Activision 2.98 2.18 0.28 0.98 6.42
13 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves PS3 2009 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 3.15 2.07 0.21 0.92 6.35
14 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception PS3 2011 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.61 2.56 0.19 0.92 6.29
15 Red Dead Redemption PS3 2010 Action Take-Two Interactive 2.58 2.27 0.17 0.87 5.89
16 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots PS3 2008 Action Konami Digital Entertainment 2.58 1.65 0.83 0.79 5.85
17 FIFA Soccer 14 PS3 2013 Sports Electronic Arts 0.57 3.48 0.06 1.38 5.49
18 Assassin's Creed III PS3 2012 Action Ubisoft 2.37 2.26 0.15 0.69 5.47
19 LittleBigPlanet PS3 2008 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 2.69 1.75 0.17 0.80 5.41
20 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim PS3 2011 Role-Playing Bethesda Softworks 2.08 2.22 0.25 0.78 5.33
21 Assassin's Creed II PS3 2009 Action Ubisoft 2.41 1.85 0.21 0.79 5.27
22 Call of Duty: World at War PS3 2008 Shooter Activision 2.58 1.76 0.00 0.78 5.12
23 Final Fantasy XIII PS3 2009 Role-Playing Square Enix 1.65 1.14 1.87 0.46 5.12
24 FIFA Soccer 11 PS3 2010 Sports Electronic Arts 0.58 3.25 0.06 1.11 5.00
25 Resident Evil 5 PS3 2009 Action Capcom 1.90 1.36 1.08 0.61 4.95
26 Batman: Arkham City PS3 2011 Action Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment 2.39 1.68 0.11 0.64 4.82
27 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune PS3 2007 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.20 1.66 0.12 0.72 4.71
28 Assassin's Creed PS3 2007 Adventure Ubisoft 1.85 1.94 0.09 0.79 4.67
29 God of War III PS3 2010 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 2.69 1.26 0.12 0.58 4.65
30 The Last of Us PS3 2013 Adventure Sony Computer Entertainment Europe 1.77 1.63 0.23 0.74 4.36
31 Resistance: Fall of Man PS3 2006 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 1.67 1.69 0.14 0.72 4.23
32 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue PS3 2007 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 1.26 1.81 0.57 0.52 4.15
33 Assassin's Creed: Revelations PS3 2011 Action Ubisoft 1.35 1.94 0.10 0.65 4.04
34 Batman: Arkham Asylum PS3 2009 Action Eidos Interactive 2.11 1.24 0.07 0.55 3.96
35 MotorStorm PS3 2006 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 1.50 1.58 0.06 0.66 3.80
36 Sports Champions PS3 2010 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 2.02 1.05 0.10 0.45 3.62
37 FIFA Soccer 10 PS3 2009 Sports Electronic Arts 0.57 2.43 0.05 0.51 3.55
38 Fallout 3 PS3 2008 Role-Playing Bethesda Softworks 1.79 1.03 0.07 0.47 3.35
39 LittleBigPlanet 2 PS3 2011 Platform Sony Computer Entertainment 1.70 0.95 0.06 0.40 3.10
40 Killzone 2 PS3 2009 Shooter Sony Computer Entertainment 1.38 1.03 0.08 0.45 2.95
41 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 2007 Role-Playing Ubisoft 1.59 0.81 0.14 0.39 2.92
42 L.A. Noire PS3 2011 Adventure Take-Two Interactive 1.18 1.18 0.11 0.44 2.91
43 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 PS3 2010 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.28 1.07 0.08 0.42 2.84
44 Heavy Rain PS3 2010 Adventure Sony Computer Entertainment 1.20 1.06 0.06 0.42 2.74
45 inFAMOUS PS3 2009 Action Sony Computer Entertainment 1.65 0.63 0.12 0.33 2.73
46 Resident Evil 6 PS3 2012 Action Capcom 0.77 0.83 0.88 0.25 2.73
47 Medal of Honor PS3 2010 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.24 1.00 0.07 0.40 2.72
48 Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag PS3 2013 Action Ubisoft 0.86 1.23 0.10 0.53 2.71
49 Far Cry 3 PS3 2012 Shooter Ubisoft 0.72 1.46 0.10 0.40 2.69
50 Fallout: New Vegas PS3 2010 Role-Playing Bethesda Softworks 1.26 0.93 0.10 0.37 2.67

We aren't talking about the market that helps push sales, we're talking about the one that helps push sales the most globally.

In contrast, this is what Japan looks like for the PS3:

Top sellers on PS3 japan only (jrpgs bold-underlined):

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Final Fantasy XIII PS3 2009 Role-Playing Square Enix 1.65 1.14 1.87 0.46 5.12
2 Resident Evil 5 PS3 2009 Action Capcom 1.90 1.36 1.08 0.61 4.95
3 Final Fantasy XIII-2 PS3 2011 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.77 0.66 0.89 0.21 2.53
4 Resident Evil 6 PS3 2012 Action Capcom 0.77 0.83 0.88 0.25 2.73
5 One Piece Pirate Musou PS3 2012 Action Namco Bandai Games 0.01 0.19 0.86 0.05 1.11
6 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots PS3 2008 Action Konami Digital Entertainment 2.58 1.65 0.83 0.79 5.85
7 Gran Turismo 5 PS3 2010 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 2.81 4.67 0.81 2.60 10.88
8 Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds PS3 2007 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.30 0.02 0.76 0.03 1.11
9 Dragon's Dogma PS3 2012 Adventure Capcom 0.32 0.36 0.72 0.12 1.51
10 Grand Theft Auto V PS3 2013 Action Take-Two Interactive 5.76 7.32 0.71 3.18 16.97
11 Tales of Xillia PS3 2011 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.24 0.11 0.67 0.06 1.08
12 Yakuza 4 PS3 N/A Adventure Sega 0.13 0.10 0.63 0.04 0.90
13 Yakuza 3 PS3 2009 Adventure Sega 0.19 0.19 0.62 0.07 1.07
14 Yakuza 5 PS3 2012 Action Sega 0.00 0.00 0.59 0.00 0.59
15 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue PS3 2007 Racing Sony Computer Entertainment 1.26 1.81 0.57 0.52 4.15
16 Warriors Orochi 3 PS3 2011 Action Ubisoft Annecy 0.00 0.01 0.55 0.00 0.57
17 Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 PS3 2011 Sports Konami Digital Entertainment 0.33 0.95 0.55 0.32 2.15
18 Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage PS3 2010 Action Ubisoft Annecy 0.05 0.02 0.55 0.01 0.63
19 pro evolution soccer 2011 PS3 2010 Sports Konami Digital Entertainment 0.28 1.16 0.54 0.40 2.38
20 Dark Souls PS3 2011 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.62 0.40 0.54 0.16 1.73
21 Kidou Senshi Gundam: Extreme VS PS3 2011 Fighting Namco Bandai Games 0.00 0.00 0.54 0.00 0.54
22 Call of Duty: Black Ops II PS3 2012 Shooter Activision 4.64 5.08 0.53 0.84 11.09
23 Monster Hunter Portable 3rd HD Ver. PS3 2011 Role-Playing Capcom 0.00 0.00 0.50 0.00 0.50
24 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle PS3 2013 Fighting Namco Bandai Games 0.00 0.00 0.49 0.00 0.49
25 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Activision 5.35 5.46 0.49 1.46 12.76
26 Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 PS3 2012 Sports Konami Digital Entertainment 0.17 0.56 0.49 0.15 1.36
27 Call of Duty: Black Ops PS3 2010 Shooter Activision 5.78 4.15 0.48 1.68 12.09
28 Dynasty Warriors 7 PS3 2011 Action Tecmo Koei 0.22 0.11 0.46 0.04 0.84
29 Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 PS3 2009 Sports Konami Digital Entertainment 0.29 1.26 0.46 0.25 2.26
30 Tales of Xillia 2 PS3 2012 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.00 0.00 0.45 0.00 0.45
31 Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance PS3 2013 Action Konami Digital Entertainment 0.32 0.26 0.44 0.09 1.11
32 Tales of Vesperia PS3 2009 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.00 0.00 0.43 0.00 0.43
33 Grand Theft Auto IV PS3 2008 Action Take-Two Interactive 4.58 3.54 0.43 1.51 10.07
34 Tales of Graces f PS3 2010 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.25 0.13 0.43 0.05 0.85
35 Yakuza: Dead Souls PS3 2011 Shooter Sega 0.07 0.05 0.42 0.02 0.56
36 Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII PS3 2013 Role-Playing Square Enix 0.29 0.12 0.42 0.06 0.90
37 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 PS3 2013 Action Namco Bandai Games 0.00 0.12 0.41 0.05 0.58
38 Dynasty Warriors 6 PS3 2007 Action Tecmo Koei 0.18 0.06 0.41 0.04 0.69
39 Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes PS3 2010 Action Capcom 0.15 0.03 0.40 0.02 0.60
40 PES 2009: Pro Evolution Soccer PS3 2008 Sports Konami Digital Entertainment 0.10 1.33 0.40 0.26 2.09
41 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 PS3 2009 Shooter Activision 4.90 3.50 0.38 1.55 10.32
42 Call of Duty: Ghosts PS3 2013 Shooter Activision 3.15 2.77 0.36 1.26 7.54
43 Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 PS3 2010 Action Tecmo Koei 0.09 0.03 0.36 0.01 0.50
44 Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City PS3 2012 Shooter Capcom 0.44 0.21 0.36 0.08 1.09
45 White Knight Chronicles: International Edition PS3 2008 Role-Playing Sony Computer Entertainment 0.29 0.15 0.36 0.07 0.87
46 Ryu Ga Gotoku Kenzan! PS3 2008 Adventure Sega 0.00 0.00 0.36 0.00 0.36
47 Demon's Souls PS3 2009 Role-Playing Namco Bandai Games 0.90 0.27 0.35 0.15 1.67
48 Battlefield 3 PS3 2011 Shooter Electronic Arts 2.73 2.76 0.34 0.99 6.83
49 Devil May Cry 4 PS3 2008 Action Capcom 0.56 0.42 0.34 0.19 1.51
50 Dynasty Warriors 8 PS3 2013 Action Tecmo Koei 0.09 0.05 0.34 0.03 0.51

Notice the relatively low western sales for the japanese role playing games which sell well in japan.

So.  I was originally referring to handhelds while you cherry picked the US and UK for your justification in reasoning. 



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WagnerPaiva on 19 March 2014

No way, 700k is huge sales for a new IP from a new studio and in a stagnated dying genre, it can get to 4-5 million on Xbox One alone.



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LivingMetal on 19 March 2014
padib said:
LivingMetal said:

So.  I was originally referring to handhelds while you cherry picked the US and UK for your justification in reasoning. 

We are not talking about handhelds. You're late to the discussion and didn't even understand what we were talking about.


I knew what you were talking about.  I doesn't matter how successful the Xbox 360 was in the US and UK.  It still lost out to both the Wii and PS3 worldwide in our global market.  Japan is a very important market and games of all types (including rpgs) help push a console.  But you cherry picked the US and UK in a false sense of reasoning from last gen to be applied to this gen when there is no truth to it.



LivingMetal on 19 March 2014
padib said:
LivingMetal said:
padib said:
LivingMetal said:

So.  I was originally referring to handhelds while you cherry picked the US and UK for your justification in reasoning. 

We are not talking about handhelds. You're late to the discussion and didn't even understand what we were talking about.


I knew what you were talking about.  I doesn't matter how successful the Xbox 360 was in the US and UK.  It still lost out to both the Wii and PS3 worldwide in our global market.  Japan is a very important market and games of all types (including rpgs) help push a console.  But you cherry picked the US and UK in a false sense of reasoning from last gen to be applied to this gen when there is no truth to it.

You are going to get me banned.

I told you repeatedly that we are talking about PS vs Xbox...


And PlayStation beat Xbox for various of reasons worldwide regardless of the Xbox successes in the US and the UK.



Shaunaka on 19 March 2014
padib said:
LivingMetal said:
padib said:
LivingMetal said:

So.  I was originally referring to handhelds while you cherry picked the US and UK for your justification in reasoning. 

We are not talking about handhelds. You're late to the discussion and didn't even understand what we were talking about.


I knew what you were talking about.  I doesn't matter how successful the Xbox 360 was in the US and UK.  It still lost out to both the Wii and PS3 worldwide in our global market.  Japan is a very important market and games of all types (including rpgs) help push a console.  But you cherry picked the US and UK in a false sense of reasoning from last gen to be applied to this gen when there is no truth to it.

You are going to get me banned.

I told you repeatedly that we are talking about PS vs Xbox, and even showed you the top 50 for the PS3 globally, only ONE of which was a jrpg.

You have no argument. Like I posted in my edit:

While you're at it, why not tell us how much your daughter may have enjoyed tamagochi were she born 18 years ago?

Don't say why, I'll tell you: because we don't care.


For what it's worth +1



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LivingMetal on 19 March 2014
padib said:
LivingMetal said:

And PlayStation beat Xbox for various of reasons worldwide regardless of the Xbox successes in the US and the UK.

We don't care what made PS beat XB. What we care about, and what the argument was, what are, globally, the most influencial markets.

NOT WHAT MAKES PS BEAT XB.

Now shoo.


And the supposedly most influencial markets didn't help the Xbox brand outsold its competitions.  So they were as not as influencial as you might have thought.



Alby_da_Wolf on 20 March 2014

Looks like a good launch, only people overhyping it and ranting about secret sauces and all that crap will be disappointed.



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Nate4Drake on 20 March 2014

Not a disappointment, just expected. it sold well considering it's not a masterpiece, basicly on-line only, and also available for PC.



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torok on 20 March 2014

Well, sales look pretty good. It's a new IP but it can easily get into the 4-6M range on XB1 (I believe that the PC and X360 version won't make much more than 3M combined, probably less since the games was advertised as a X1 title).

Now, people that believed that the game would change the console war, cure cancer and sells 10M X1 will be disapointed, but that was because they were delusional. Think this way, GTA IV sold 20M copies but it didn't made PS3 and 360 crush the Wii. What made them crush the Wii was a large library, online mode and price cuts.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

jlmurph2 on 21 March 2014

So can we ban this site or no?