To be fair, PS3 is getting the brunt of the bad press now. It might be getting it a little easier due to inertia, but media wants to make everybody into either a winner or a loser. Or first one, then the other.

Drama sells.

 True, but do you agree that Nintendo new it would be succesfull?

That was the only point i was debating with you. It would be silly for a compnay to invest in a product they thought would fail. ...Just a little silly...

successful, yes but not this successful

 Agreed, i think the PS3 is a great console but the price set for it was too high, but now its getting better, the next price drop and its mine.

@Psrocks

  Glad we agree

Sony baically took the PS2 controller and added tilt sensing to it. That's BEING a third place company.

and they are in third place, i still dont know how the nitendo strategy worked better.

@ psrock because even if you don't agree with thier strategy it was something fresh, wii sports is todays super mario land. It was advertised as an inclusive system, as in it included every body, not only that too, it has the potential to take gameplay to a new level, though it has not done that just yet, i see little pockets of hope like the controls in god father, resident evil (old game i know but that not the point) and no more heroes. Thses are but some of the things that adds to the wii strenght IMO

psrock, I think you're both right and wrong to a degree. Saying the Wii is a Gamecube with motion contols is straight ignorant. Is the 360 just an Xbox with enhanced graphics?

You do have a point regarding Nintendo not being as confident as they may have spoken about the Wii back when it was named the Revolution. The kind of shortages Nintendo is having shows that they completely underrated their own possible success and are having real trouble keeping up with this kind of demand. I don't blame them though. The victory they pulled out looks like the equivalent of rubbing two sticks together to create a fire. 

so many people said it would fail,

both sony and microsoft people said it was a fad

but its still outselling both systems

i guess i have to play with the wii to undestand, as i am a huge graphic whore.