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Should white people be allowed in the conversation of multiethnicity?

Yes-White people are multiethnic, too 52 70.27%
 
No - they don't understand the struggles 2 2.70%
 
I didn't even know this was a problem 13 17.57%
 
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Zkuq said:
Multiethnicity is relevant mainly in countries where white populace is the majority so yes, definitely. The people of a country should have a say in what kinds of people they let in their country.


What?



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badgenome said:
SocialistSlayer said:

youve been watching to much msnbc and melissa harris perry, havent you?

Worse. I work at a university and have to deal with women's studies students all the time. It's all rape culture this and mansplaining that. Fucking insufferable.

dang, i though MHP was the one who invented the ridiculous terms of "whitesplaining" and "mansplainin" but with a lisp of course... or rather lthisp



 

MegaManX said:
rolltide101x said:
MegaManX said:
There are intolerant people in non white countries, as big a shock as this might come to some. Brutal gang wars in Mexico, civil wars in Syria, racism in Brazil where a lot of people are mixed races!, homosexuality being a crime in Iran punishable my death, womens rights in India, Uganda president saying gays are disgusting and proposing legislation against it, even people of Islamic faith in the middle east regulary clash between Sunnis and Shittes for hundreds of years, North Korea and South Korea and the list goes on.

I mean literally ever race across the world is completely fucked up, why would things be any different in a country with a mix of everybody. I think people today look to the US past in race relations, ignoring the blacks who sold each other into slavery and hold white people today accountable for that. I am white, my family on both sides immigrated here in the 1930's, we did not hold slaves and my grandparents were abused and worked up from nothing just like todays immigrants, they even had less benefits than we have today. There is some real racism on both sides, I don't deny it, but everybody gets lumped in with their respective race and that shouldn't be the case.

I never hear any complaints from Hispanic or Asian people oddly enough, it's like there's this ongoing feud between blacks and whites and each side points to the other as bad and meanwhile other nationalities come in and really don't have anything bad to say about either.

It reminds me of the time I asked out a girl and everything was going great until I mentioned I was Catholic, at which point she made an excuse to leave. She is Protestant and apparently there is some history of the two not liking each other, like centuries ago, I really didn't care or see the point at the time though I was a lot younger. She got married a few years later and got divorced last year, so much for that Protestant :) People don't know each other, they get caught up in history and apply the past to the present people.

Protestants do not like Catholics because Catholics did not let Protestants practice their religion. That is basically what the United States was founded for. Not that, that is any reason to not like somebody but I will say there is no way I would date a girl who was a "real" Catholic. I just do not agree with  to much of the religion.


Well I have gotten myself more educated about various religions since then before I reaffirmed I made the right decision, so I understand where she was coming from.  While her decision makes sense to me now, I thought the whole situation at the time was insane but it was a first date so no harm.  I dated a Muslim girl at the time to, at the time it was just about meeting people and ultimately finding somebody for the long term.  But now, like you I would stay in my own religion for the same reason you described. 

Also I realize you were just being concise but the founding of the country was much more complicated and I would said a broader freedom of religion was ONE facet of our countries founding.  

I don't want to derail the thread though with a small story I told that was just there to show how we hold hold current generations responsible for sins of the past, even if in context it wasn't completely comparable.  

I would say no harm done as it is relevant to the thread in a way.



Yes, we all are people and have opinions therefor we all have something to offer to the discussion on skin color.



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McDonaldsGuy said:

What I don't get is why people like to claim race doesn't exist but then they make every issue about race.

If race doesn't exist, then what you want to do should not be an issue.

By the way I don't think it should be an issue.


That's just the thing.  If you are white then you have no reason to complain or aggravate the iss.  However, if you're a historically oppressed minority then you should be pretty vocal.    But to say that it shouldn't be an issue ignores any problems that still exist, and they still do. But rather, the question is whether white.people should have a voice in race.discussions and they sjould. We side just hand over the political forum to blacks all of a sudden, everyone gets a right to express themselves.



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So that's how white man's burden looks liek these days, eh?

 Never was much of a problem over here. Call black person a "negr" and nobody will have problems with that (and if negrs are having problems with that, they should probably f**k off). Granted there never was 300 smth years of slavery that resulted in excessive political correctness and word tabuization today.

 Do the accusations of whitesplaining come only from black people or people of other races and ethniticies do that as well? Latinos (btw that's politically correct word)? Asians?



I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.

And because you can't use the N word or any other racial slur used vs hispanics or asians without being called a racist is not discrimination lol



RG3Hunna said:
I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.


The U.S. government discriminates against white people each and every day. But I have posts earlier in this thread that talks about a personal experience of mine about being discriminated against.

 

The main type of discrimination that white people suffer is not directly what happens it is what does not happen and what we can not do. If white people made a channel called "White TV" or had the "White Miss America" then Jesse Jackson would go crazy screaming racism and they would be shut down



RG3Hunna said:
I'm black and I think all races should contribute in the discussion of race however as a black man I always wanted to know the discrimination white people experience?

I hear a lot of my close white friends tell me white people are the most discriminated against and all the other races are the most racist but then I ask them how are they discriminated against and they have absolutely ZERO responses where they personally experienced discrimination lol.

Please give me some experiences on the discrimination whites experience, I always wondered how it would be to be white and what type of racial stereotypes/racism white people experience.


We aren't discriminated against except when it comes to black people who give us a harder time.  I understand if they are doing this bc of past problems, but I'll still be very quick to assert yhat if anybody deserves to be considered suspicious for little reason it is the racial group that  has a much higher crime rate than whites, and guess who that is?h



I don't think it's racist for a white person to be involved in race based discussion, in fact, the majority opinion is one of the most essential opinions to represent. You need to have a diverse opinion, so so long as the "white" opinion is not the ONLY one, it's hardly a problem.

BECAUSE THERE'S MORE TO DIVERSITY THAN JUST RACE.

As this is a pet peeve of mine, let me explain. Diversity is about having a mixed bag of opinions and experiences, and while some of those opinions and experiences often fall along racial lines, diversity in and of itself is an intellectual thing. It's not about what color skin you have, but how you think.

Using just examples of people I've met, yes diversity can mean including the black man from down the street who grew up in "da hood" and went on to become a debate club captan, or naturalized citizens from India, Jamaica, or Kenya. None of those people are white.

It can also include the missionary's daughter who spent ten years doing mission work in India. It can mean the nuclear engineer turned linguist, spending time in sub-Saharan Africa codifying a local language into a written form. Both of those people are as white as you can get, and yet any definition of diversity would be shallow to not include them.

Heck, it could even include me. I am a white heterosexual male who has only once left the United States, but I know all of those people and have been exposed to all those opinions and experiences. Race means almost nothing in diversity.

So yeah, uninvite the whites. You're losing diversity by doing it.