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Kongfucius said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
Vita exclusive, please

What does an exclusive version for the Vita accomplish aside from beeing another bullet point for a list war ?

Having it on the PS3 and Vita like FFX HD would be far better.


Because it's one RPG game, I think RPG's work better and handhelds, I don't want to play it on PS3. Vita can give me graphic fidelity on PS3 level. PS3 version is not necessary for me. PS3 version are said to be expensive to develop. Vita versions are said to not being too expensive to develop. I'd rather not seeing they invest the cash on a just yesterday platform! If they make a PS3 version it's confirmed to not be cross-buy. Make it a PS Vita exclusive. End.

The PS3 version of Final Fantasy X HD has outsold the Vita version.

Some people want the game in HD, the Vita´s display isn´t HD and X doesn´t even run at native res on the Vita.

More options are better than less.

End.


The numbers we have would actually suggest the game on both platforms is at about statistical tie level. .27 vs .24 million. Then there is the fact that there is only 1 SKU on the PS3.  All versions of that game contain both FFX and FFX-2.  There is also a stand alone sku for FFX HD for Vita.  That might make up the remaining 30k. I think the standalone version did 15k on launch so it's pretty highly plausible they are equal which is no small feat considering the Vita version is so gimped in comparison.  

I do concur that more options are better than less for the consumer in most cases.  Only the Vita fanboy in me that wants the platform to be more successful would think of making it exclusive.  Vita failed too hard in the west for a company with global release plans to rely soley on that platform though :-/

Indeed, it appears only the Vita twin pack was tracked on vgchartz and not the standalone FFX or FFX-2 SKUs, so the numbers are under. Include digital for both (which we sort of have, given that Famitsu gave out that info for January but not December) and they're both in the region of 280k-300k (if someone would take the time to add the numbers from Famitsu properly I'd be very grateful), with PS3 ahead by about 10k.

I'm not sure that FFX-2 has a singular SKU for either platform.  I prefer to not add digital sales cause VGcharz doesn't track them.  Also we don't look like fanbois grasping at straws trying to make the platform look better than it is. Not that I don't think Vita has a higher than average download attach ratio.  Just that in most cases we can't prove it so why feed the flames.  



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nitekrawler1285 said:
orniletter said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
 

I do concur that more options are better than less for the consumer in most cases.  Only the Vita fanboy in me that wants the platform to be more successful would think of making it exclusive.  Vita failed too hard in the west for a company with global release plans to rely soley on that platform though :-/


It was very successful on the Vita, that is true, but to be brutally honest:

An exclusive FF XII HD exclusive wouldn´t change much in the grand scheme of things, Vita needs it´s own exlusive games.

...and I say that as someone who will get X HD on his Vita !


It would've at the consoles infancy.  People would have gravitated torwards the platform because the likely assumption would be that more are coming.  It's a bit late now with the reputation being established and all.  

I think having Type 0 and FFX HD as exclusives would have done awesome for Vita.  Hell look at how well FFXHD boosted sales for the platform this late in the game.  It was even a Multiplat and where did the hardware sales go... to the Vita.  

I think Type-0 could still do big things for Vita though as it's still basically an exclusive if it comes west, and it would put back at least one piece of the puzzle which made PSP do so well (namely exclusive big-name JRPGs like Crisis Core:FFVII, though of course it won't be as big in Japan where it's just a port, or the rest of the world for that matter being as the Vita install base is so little. It would still be good though) :)



Kongfucius said:

I think Type-0 could still do big things for Vita though as it's still basically an exclusive if it comes west, and it would put back at least one piece of the puzzle which made PSP do so well (namely exclusive big-name JRPGs like Crisis Core:FFVII, though of course it won't be as big in Japan where it's just a port, or the rest of the world for that matter being as the Vita install base is so little. It would still be good though) :)

Very true. With the exception of us forum dwellers I'm sure the west as a whole has no idea about Type 0.  It woul lend the appearance of an original FF to the uninformed.  



nitekrawler1285 said:
Kongfucius said:
nitekrawler1285 said:
orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
Vita exclusive, please

What does an exclusive version for the Vita accomplish aside from beeing another bullet point for a list war ?

Having it on the PS3 and Vita like FFX HD would be far better.


Because it's one RPG game, I think RPG's work better and handhelds, I don't want to play it on PS3. Vita can give me graphic fidelity on PS3 level. PS3 version is not necessary for me. PS3 version are said to be expensive to develop. Vita versions are said to not being too expensive to develop. I'd rather not seeing they invest the cash on a just yesterday platform! If they make a PS3 version it's confirmed to not be cross-buy. Make it a PS Vita exclusive. End.

The PS3 version of Final Fantasy X HD has outsold the Vita version.

Some people want the game in HD, the Vita´s display isn´t HD and X doesn´t even run at native res on the Vita.

More options are better than less.

End.


The numbers we have would actually suggest the game on both platforms is at about statistical tie level. .27 vs .24 million. Then there is the fact that there is only 1 SKU on the PS3.  All versions of that game contain both FFX and FFX-2.  There is also a stand alone sku for FFX HD for Vita.  That might make up the remaining 30k. I think the standalone version did 15k on launch so it's pretty highly plausible they are equal which is no small feat considering the Vita version is so gimped in comparison.  

I do concur that more options are better than less for the consumer in most cases.  Only the Vita fanboy in me that wants the platform to be more successful would think of making it exclusive.  Vita failed too hard in the west for a company with global release plans to rely soley on that platform though :-/

Indeed, it appears only the Vita twin pack was tracked on vgchartz and not the standalone FFX or FFX-2 SKUs, so the numbers are under. Include digital for both (which we sort of have, given that Famitsu gave out that info for January but not December) and they're both in the region of 280k-300k (if someone would take the time to add the numbers from Famitsu properly I'd be very grateful), with PS3 ahead by about 10k.

I'm not sure that FFX-2 has a singular SKU for either platform.  I prefer to not add digital sales cause VGcharz doesn't track them.  Also we don't look like fanbois grasping at straws trying to make the platform look better than it is. Not that I don't think Vita has a higher than average download attach ratio.  Just that in most cases we can't prove it so why feed the flames.  


You're right to call out the fact that in Japan at least, digital accounts for very little (3%-5% even on Vita). However, seeing as we do have that information (especially because we do actually have all of it, it was actually November that was missing which is before it came out) it seems short-sighted not to include it (every little helps), plus FFX-2 definitely had a standalone SKU, even it didn't sell very much it still makes a difference when the margins are so small

If you take the latest Dengeki LTD number (227,301) plus the standalone FFX and FFX-2 SKU numbers from that siliconera article I linked (31,775 and 16,335, only as far as the second week so may actually be more now) and December + Digital sales (18,964) and you get 294,105

Add up all the available PS3 numbers from the same sources and it's 283,062 + 8,792 which equals 291,854, so basically parity



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Kongfucius said:

You're right to call out the fact that in Japan at least, digital accounts for very little (3%-5% even on Vita). However, seeing as we do have that information (especially because we do actually have all of it, it was actually November that was missing which is before it came out) it seems short-sighted not to include it (every little helps), plus FFX-2 definitely had a standalone SKU, even it didn't sell very much it still makes a difference when the margins are so small

If you take the latest Dengeki LTD number (227,301) plus the standalone FFX and FFX-2 SKU numbers from that siliconera article I linked (31,775 and 16,335, only as far as the second week so may actually be more now) and December + Digital sales (18,964) and you get 294,105

Add up all the available PS3 numbers from the same sources and it's 283,062 + 8,792 which equals 291,854, so basically parity


This is true. I always forget that Famitsu does digital charts as well now.  Wish we could get that kind of data for all regions. 



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orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
orniletter said:
PlayMatt said:
Vita exclusive, please

What does an exclusive version for the Vita accomplish aside from beeing another bullet point for a list war ?

Having it on the PS3 and Vita like FFX HD would be far better.


Because it's one RPG game, I think RPG's work better and handhelds, I don't want to play it on PS3. Vita can give me graphic fidelity on PS3 level. PS3 version is not necessary for me. PS3 version are said to be expensive to develop. Vita versions are said to not being too expensive to develop. I'd rather not seeing they invest the cash on a just yesterday platform! If they make a PS3 version it's confirmed to not be cross-buy. Make it a PS Vita exclusive. End.

The PS3 version of Final Fantasy X HD has outsold the Vita version.

Some people want the game in HD, the Vita´s display isn´t HD and X doesn´t even run at native res on the Vita.

More options are better than less.

End.

I know it did... And that's why I don't want another one on PS3. Dieing platform anyway...



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Thankfully they're not going to make FF X-3, that audio drama and "novella" were awful.



the-pi-guy said:
PlayMatt said:
orniletter said:

More options are better than less.

End.

I know it did... And that's why I don't want another one on PS3. Dieing platform anyway...

Bolded is important.  

@Italicized part : really?  A lot of people would say that about the Vita.  In fact most people would probably say that the PS3 will still sell more going forward than the Vita.  


for 2 more years maybe...

 

If you want a console version then be it PS4 u,u



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