FishyJoe said: Andir said: Pointing me to a sales chart and saying that a game is better because it sold more is absolutely the wrong thing to do. Different people like different games. Just because my preferred game isn't at the top of the charts doesn't make it any worse for me. This is a sales forum.

 So I'm supposed to do what then?  Buy all the games simply because they are best sellers?  Is this how you buy cars?  soft drinks?  movies?  Are you telling me that only those items that sell more are worth owning?  Why even have competition then?  When the PS2 wasthe best selling console, why would you want to buy a Gamecube or an Xbox?

 I stand by my statement.  Just because a game is a top seller, doesn't automatically make it my favorite game.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss sales, not what your favorite game is. The are other boards for that.

This is funny when you take into account what Patcher had to say on the Bonus Round on GameTrailers recently.

He sounds like either a terrible analyst, or a very coy one as he seems to predict EVERYTHING will win at a certain point or another.

That way, when reality comes around, he can claim "success!"

libellule said: PS2 owners ARE LOOKING to play to the sequel of MGS FF Halo GT GTA etc... if these game come to Wii, then Wii will OVER possess the market (more than 80%)

If PS2 owners are looking to play the sequel to Halo, then they are in for a loooong wait.

OriGin said: PS. I think it's a shoe in for 360 to lose this gen, they're never going to get a broad base, everyone considers the 360 the 'nerds' console like the Dreamcast was.

Really? Did I miss a Memo?

to misterd,

Just go to hell man, or just close ur mouth,

(EDIT : oups, sorry, I should not have saied this )

PS2 owners are looking to play sequels of the past big title like MGS FF Halo GT GTA. For this they will buy a Xbox360 or a PS3 (depending of the game OFC).
If Wii is able to share these sequel too, or even to have an exclusive one, then people will not have to buy expensive console, they will just have to buy a Wii.

That is all I wanted to say,
I never stated that Halo sequel is going to be released on the PS2,
Next time, read the whole thread, not an extract, thx u.

Can someone close this thread ?
I think ALL and NOTHING was already saied 100 times here.

a.l.e.x59 said: HappySqurriel said: Blue3 said: Probably right. Wii lacks the hardware power for a good 5/6 year life cycle. I don't see how hardware power has anything to do with how long a console lasts ... The difference in quality of graphics and processing power between the N64 and Playstation was huge but the playstation continued to sell (and have Million selling games) years after the N64 was discontinued; following up on that the XBox and Gamecube both had processing power advantages over the PS2 yet had much shorter lifespans. Certainly, the difference in processing power between the Wii and PS3/XBox 360 is very large but so is the price difference. Eventually (say 2009/2010) the Wii will probably be $99 (with Wii Sports) While Microsoft is still trying to sell the XBox 360 for $200 (or more) and the PS3 is $300 (or more); there are far more people in the world who are willing to spend $99 on a console than are willing to spend $299 on a console. Playstation ($299) > Nintendo 64 ($199) Playstation 2 ($299) > Gamecube ($199) Price??? No...

The PS2 vs GCN comparison is off for several reasons.

1) The hottest commodity in 2000-2001 were DVD players. A cheap DVD player at that time ran $100, essentially neutralizing the cost difference. Sony apparantly was counting on BR to have similar demand, but it clearly doesn't, so it can't be counted on to offset the cost of the PS3 (yet - BR may still catch on).

2) GCN just had piss poor marketing, and did nothing to correct the misconception that its lower price meant it had less power than the competition.

3) The one holiday where that $100 price difference existed Nintendo had one worthwhile title, while Sony had a stellar lineup (thanks to the 1 year lead time) and, as it was the GCN's launch year, Sony had far more consoles on the shelves to sell. Within 6 months, Sony cut the PS2s price to $199. Nintendo followed with a drop to $149, but given all the other factors, $50 was just not a big enough difference.

 As for The PS and N64, the PS cut its price to $199 almost six months before the N64 was launched. The two consoles maintained similar prices for most of the generation (I can't find an exact price history for the N64, but I believe the two were either matched in price or a small advantage ($20) was held by the PS).

In neither case was the price difference ever as great as $200-350, which is nearly enough to purchase another console. I can't think of another time where there was this great a disparity between the primary consoles (let's leave the 3DO out of this).  

 

libellule said: to misterd, Just go to hell man, or just close ur mouth, PS2 owners are looking to play sequels of the past big title like MGS FF Halo GT GTA. For this they will buy a Xbox360 or a PS3 (depending of the game OFC). If Wii is able to share these sequel too, or even to have an exclusive one, then people will not have to buy expensive console, they will just have to buy a Wii. That is all I wanted to say, I never stated that Halo sequel is going to be released on the PS2, Next time, read the whole thread, not an extract, thx u. Can someone close this thread ? I think ALL and NOTHING was already saied 100 times here.

 

First, I did read the thread. Any yes, pretty much everything else has been said repeatedly, and not just here, which I why I limited my comment to two things that I didn't see commented on (yours being one).

Second, WHY would PS2 owners be looking to play a sequel to Halo, and XBox exclusive? Why not say they're waiting to play the next Mario?

Third, go **** yourself.

I have tried to use game that were know from PS2 owners like FF MGS GTA GT.
Halo is not a PS game, since it is Xbox exclusive, but a lot of PS owners are interested in playing it (because if there was 1 very famous game on Xbox it was Halo). Halo is typically the type of game that PS2 owners would have been happy to play. Mario is not. Mario is an exclusive Nintendo game that don't really appeal PS2 owners (too cartoon)

I was just stated that if PS2 owners want to play to their favorite game, they have to purchase PS3 or Xbox360. Yes, Halo is not a favorite PS2owners game but I m pretty sure they will be happy to test it since there is a lot of hype on it.

If Wii is able to get some of these "cinematic game" (like Halo/FF/GTA/GT are), that have make the popularity of the PS name, then it will better attract PS2 owners.
That is all I wanted to say :

Wiimote + nintendo "good-cartoon-game" + PS "cinematic game" + low price
==> Wii WIN by KO

And man, I never saied "fuck u"
So keep ur rude language for yourself,
I just answered u that I never stated that "Halo is coming to PS2"
as you were suggesting in your first 1 line post completely out of the thread.
Take it easy next time, thx u.

He's saying that PS3 and 360 have the same kind of gamers. That's why PS2 owners might like Halo over Mario.