I am assuming that most of you know that The Pirat Bay in Sweden is about to go to court for it´s P2P filesharing.

1.What do you guys think, should they be jailed for providing an online tracker?

2.So you think the movie,music and game buisness has to adapt and change their buisness modell?

3.Do you think they will need to change their buisness modell to surviv?

4.Is it a good thing that the piratbay exists?

5. Do you think that in the future games, movies and music will need to be more of a fresh(new) product to sell?

Plese asnwer and discuss and add with your own theories.

I think people should follow the law and respect people's work.

1. its "the pirate bay"

2. the site is completely legal

3. if they go to jail it just shows how stupid politicians and the legal systems around the world are.

I want to add, I know nothing about the specifics of piratebay...

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The pirat bay is perfecly legal by Swedish law and it´s American corporations that are pushing for this to go to court.

So I will add a question:

6 Do you think it´s fair the corporations can push to this extent to get their will through?

1.Jailed? I don't know it depends on how much piracy could of prevented with more stringent controls yet keeping the site viable for legitimate use. I don't know swedish law but the pirate bay did host a lot of trackers for copyrighted material. I don't think any copyrigth infraction should be jailtime though I do think fines are reasonable provided the fines are actually reasonable.

2.Yes very much so. We have the Itunes store and a few other options out there right now but the competition is weak and it is not like retail yet plus I don't want to be tied to Itunes software to buy movies/music online.

3.Yes I do. I think the all of the industries need to adjust their pricing scheme for online they also need to open availability through competition.

4.Yes and no. I do believe as long as current system are inadequate that the torrent sites provide a great service. For instance the other day I was able to download Dr. Mobius and M 2 movies which are hard to find. I also hope it will push the RIAA and MPAA to find ways to increase their actual presence in the online market place aside from law suits. It also is a great place to find a bunch of none copyrighted stuff stock footage and even start up animations and videos.

5. It doesn't all have to be fresh. I think like always something fresh has to be introduced into any market to keep it from leveling or even receding but it has nothign to do with going online. Regular business models apply. Not selling enough on a high profit margin item sell it for less and you can sell more and make more profit or you can get burned and sell the same and make less profit.

@vaio
6. No it isn't fair or right. Corporations should have no say in law at all, apart from to alert the authorities about suspected breaches of law. If the authorities refuse to take action then tough.
On another note- Long live the 'Bay.

I use torrentz when my game discs will no longer read. I use the key I bought. I also use them for music you can't find in a store like concerts(audio and video). There are perfectly legitimate and legal reasons to use places like TPB.

If they called it 'Pirate bay' then quite clearly the expected it to be used for piracy. So yeah, it should be shut down, mind you I feel the same about Limewire.