you know whats tired? its people like you who complain and whine about the users who are just bored as fuck from these threads. they dominate the hot topics forum and are filling the forums with nonesense. you want to have a discussion about the consoles hardware, make a thread specifically for that. but dont keep making thread about endless stupid rumors that get debunked one after the other. these rumors, secret souces threads are simply a JOKE, each and every one of them. they have no useful information, bring nothing to the forums and are an utter waste of time.

so, dont go get on your high horse and act all upset because i call bullshit on these nonesense rumors and threads that are pretty much obvious to everybody. 

The fact is in most of these xbox threads, the majority of posts are from sony fans desperately trying to shut discussion down. It is sony fans keeping them in hot topics, and it is sony fans who tick the "microsoft discussion" box in their aggregator. In fact the sony discussion section is a wasteland because the playstation4 is so dull and nobody really seems excited about it, where xbox is the hot topic across the internet.

Can't you sony fans bring yourself to ignore this discussion? Are you so insecure that you feel the need to post in every single xbox thread? If the PS4 was as superior as sony fans imply, wouldn't that be self evident to any and all?

it is self evident, just look at killzone and infamous. and thats what we are trying to say, yet these threads keep coming up. i wont feel insecure because how powerfull a box is. but since you are the one bringing insecurities in this topic it seems you are the one who has these insecurities. 

There you go treating subjective opinion as objective fact. To me those games look like dull and generic rehashes of dull and generic series; by your logic am I right to jump up in every discussion of those games and shout the thread into oblivion? I don't even follow the sony discussions so I wouldn't know what's being said about them nor do I care.

its funny, you people all jump around here claiming sony fans shut down these threads. yet here you are the ones derailing it by these endless replies to me. if you wanted to have these discussons that you claim you so badly want to have but other users ruin, you would have had them, but you didnt. why? beats me, maybe because the truth is obvious about these threads that they are nothing but silly nonesense. if you want to have them go have these time wasting disucssions, but if you reply to me you are pretty much admiting that your intent here is not to have these, but try to act as poor little victims of the evil sony fans. 

That's my point, I am a victim of sony fans. I can't read xbox discussion in peace without wading through a flood of spam. Sure my posts contribute about as much as yours do to this thread, which is nothing, but just as you're out to shut down discussion, I'm out to shut you down.

you poor soul, i feel so bad for you. tell Mr victim, since you just stated your intentions regarding this thread, does that mean you admit to thread, derailing, flaiming and baiting?

its funny, you people all jump around here claiming sony fans shut down these threads. yet here you are the ones derailing it by these endless replies to me. if you wanted to have these discussons that you claim you so badly want to have but other users ruin, you would have had them, but you didnt. why? beats me, maybe because the truth is obvious about these threads that they are nothing but silly nonesense. if you want to have them go have these time wasting disucssions, but if you reply to me you are pretty much admiting that your intent here is not to have these, but try to act as poor little victims of the evil sony fans. 

Please leave.