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One word answer: No.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

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ethomaz said:

~5 billions

 


Which is a bucket ton.
To put that in perspective, that's equivalent to my Core i7 3930K (6 Cores/12 Threads, ) AND a Radeon 7870 combined.

Granted the largest chunk of that transister count goes towards the eSRAM, but one has to assume it's not going to be a slouch. (In console terms anyway.)




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whoa so many insecure PS fans.... I'm starting to wonder if they did realize raw specs on paper means pretty much nothing, especially since nobody is tapping anywhere close to the max capacity of any console before several years into the gen, that raw power has never been the main selling point and that so far I have yet to see any games announced on PS4 that got me jumping up and down because it seemed new or refreshing (and I'm not talking about arcade/indi games, those needs will be largely satisfied on both consoles and don't usually need crazy horsepower)

well that might explain why they spend more time on MS forums than on Sony.... not much to talk about beside superior hardware apparently.... and a lot of time to waste to diss MS potential superiority on every other front.....



fatslob-:O said:

I'll probably assume that some functional units are dissabled consider that comes at roughly near 400mm^2 die.

363mm²... the transistor are dense and there are reduancy in the eSRAM (>32MB).



Pemalite said:

Which is a bucket ton.
To put that in perspective, that's equivalent to my Core i7 3930K (6 Cores/12 Threads, ) AND a Radeon 7870 combined.

Granted the largest chunk of that transister count goes towards the eSRAM, but one has to assume it's not going to be a slouch. (In console terms anyway.)

It is a lot even for a CPU + GPU



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endimion said:
whoa so many insecure PS fans.... I'm starting to wonder if they did realize raw specs on paper means pretty much nothing, especially since nobody is tapping anywhere close to the max capacity of any console before several years into the gen, that raw power has never been the main selling point and that so far I have yet to see any games announced on PS4 that got me jumping up and down because it seemed new or refreshing (and I'm not talking about arcade/indi games, those needs will be largely satisfied on both consoles and don't usually need crazy horsepower)

well that might explain why they spend more time on MS forums than on Sony.... not much to talk about beside superior hardware apparently.... and a lot of time to waste to diss MS potential superiority on every other front.....


How can Sony fans be the ones who are insecure, when it is Xbox fans creating these theads daily about bogus spinning of mystery secret sauce and performance numbers? Yor entire post is hypocritical.



iamdeath said:
endimion said:
whoa so many insecure PS fans.... I'm starting to wonder if they did realize raw specs on paper means pretty much nothing, especially since nobody is tapping anywhere close to the max capacity of any console before several years into the gen, that raw power has never been the main selling point and that so far I have yet to see any games announced on PS4 that got me jumping up and down because it seemed new or refreshing (and I'm not talking about arcade/indi games, those needs will be largely satisfied on both consoles and don't usually need crazy horsepower)

well that might explain why they spend more time on MS forums than on Sony.... not much to talk about beside superior hardware apparently.... and a lot of time to waste to diss MS potential superiority on every other front.....


How can Sony fans be the ones who are insecure, when it is Xbox fans creating these theads daily about bogus spinning of mystery secret sauce and performance numbers? Yor entire post is hypocritical.

I don't know maybe because they are the only one like yous that bother to come in the MS forums to comment on this threads, that are not supposed to interest them. because almost no XB fan cares really about what's going on in the Sony forum and PS news. no matter the amount of BS posts there are around these parts of the forum I don't see how it is of any concern what so ever with the Sony fanbase unless they actually feel insecure. It is by definition insecurity if you feel the need to go the extra miles on the opposite camp to defend your team against obvious BS, if it wasn't the case you would stay in your camp and laugh peacefully on your forum. If you don't see the opposite happen with XB fans flooding the Sony forum with downplaying arguments against the PS4 (and there is a lot to be said)  it's because we are confident with our choice and secret sauce or not, we absolutely don't care because we still feel the XB1 is the better offer all things considered, inferior hardware or not.


you can try to down it as much as you want, to me XB1 with inferior Hardware is still a far more advanced entertainement device than PS4, secret sauce or not I don't see any appeal to the PS4 over the XB1 (quite the opposite actually) other than the better hardware and the probability of having slightly better looking games way later in the gen.... once again if I'm looking for a pure gaming rig I'd get a new PC or a steam box, I have way enough to play on current gen to not care about a new console with just a hardware boost....



endimion said:
iamdeath said:
endimion said:
whoa so many insecure PS fans.... I'm starting to wonder if they did realize raw specs on paper means pretty much nothing, especially since nobody is tapping anywhere close to the max capacity of any console before several years into the gen, that raw power has never been the main selling point and that so far I have yet to see any games announced on PS4 that got me jumping up and down because it seemed new or refreshing (and I'm not talking about arcade/indi games, those needs will be largely satisfied on both consoles and don't usually need crazy horsepower)

well that might explain why they spend more time on MS forums than on Sony.... not much to talk about beside superior hardware apparently.... and a lot of time to waste to diss MS potential superiority on every other front.....


How can Sony fans be the ones who are insecure, when it is Xbox fans creating these theads daily about bogus spinning of mystery secret sauce and performance numbers? Yor entire post is hypocritical.

I don't know maybe because they are the only one like yous that bother to come in the MS forums to comment on this threads, that are not supposed to interest them. because almost no XB fan cares really about what's going on in the Sony forum and PS news. no matter the amount of BS posts there are around these parts of the forum I don't see how it is of any concern what so ever with the Sony fanbase unless they actually feel insecure. It is by definition insecurity if you feel the need to go the extra miles on the opposite camp to defend your team against obvious BS, if it wasn't the case you would stay in your camp and laugh peacefully on your forum. If you don't see the opposite happen with XB fans flooding the Sony forum with downplaying arguments against the PS4 (and there is a lot to be said)  it's because we are confident with our choice and secret sauce or not, we absolutely don't care because we still feel the XB1 is the better offer all things considered, inferior hardware or not.


you can try to down it as much as you want, to me XB1 with inferior Hardware is still a far more advanced entertainement device than PS4, secret sauce or not I don't see any appeal to the PS4 over the XB1 (quite the opposite actually) other than the better hardware and the probability of having slightly better looking games way later in the gen.... once again if I'm looking for a pure gaming rig I'd get a new PC or a steam box, I have way enough to play on current gen to not care about a new console with just a hardware boost....

How is it more advanced? because it can use your existing cable box as a pass thru, only having to pay for live and your existing cable LOL? If i want cable ill just use the plethora of ways people already have it. A case of selling asomething people do not need. Heck even PS4 will have backwadrs compatibility with gaikai, the $`100 more box won't.

hate to break it to you...the Ps4 will be a robust media machine, why do xbox fans act like it won't? Ps3 was way better then 360 at it, PS4 won;t be a slouch. Sony is a media company more then MS.



This thread has turned to sh#t, gotta give credit for the whole vgchartz community.



endimion said:
iamdeath said:
endimion said:
whoa so many insecure PS fans.... I'm starting to wonder if they did realize raw specs on paper means pretty much nothing, especially since nobody is tapping anywhere close to the max capacity of any console before several years into the gen, that raw power has never been the main selling point and that so far I have yet to see any games announced on PS4 that got me jumping up and down because it seemed new or refreshing (and I'm not talking about arcade/indi games, those needs will be largely satisfied on both consoles and don't usually need crazy horsepower)

well that might explain why they spend more time on MS forums than on Sony.... not much to talk about beside superior hardware apparently.... and a lot of time to waste to diss MS potential superiority on every other front.....


How can Sony fans be the ones who are insecure, when it is Xbox fans creating these theads daily about bogus spinning of mystery secret sauce and performance numbers? Yor entire post is hypocritical.

I don't know maybe because they are the only one like yous that bother to come in the MS forums to comment on this threads, that are not supposed to interest them. because almost no XB fan cares really about what's going on in the Sony forum and PS news. no matter the amount of BS posts there are around these parts of the forum I don't see how it is of any concern what so ever with the Sony fanbase unless they actually feel insecure. It is by definition insecurity if you feel the need to go the extra miles on the opposite camp to defend your team against obvious BS, if it wasn't the case you would stay in your camp and laugh peacefully on your forum. If you don't see the opposite happen with XB fans flooding the Sony forum with downplaying arguments against the PS4 (and there is a lot to be said)  it's because we are confident with our choice and secret sauce or not, we absolutely don't care because we still feel the XB1 is the better offer all things considered, inferior hardware or not.


you can try to down it as much as you want, to me XB1 with inferior Hardware is still a far more advanced entertainement device than PS4, secret sauce or not I don't see any appeal to the PS4 over the XB1 (quite the opposite actually) other than the better hardware and the probability of having slightly better looking games way later in the gen.... once again if I'm looking for a pure gaming rig I'd get a new PC or a steam box, I have way enough to play on current gen to not care about a new console with just a hardware boost....

You know what is even funnier?  That the Sony diehards work so hard to downplay even the remote chance that the XB1 could have some different spec that could make it equal or better.  I myself know that I will own both consoles, but if I try to even imply there is a chance that the XB1 might have some type of power = or > than the PS4, people act like I must be a deluted fanboy.  Up to this coming generation, I bought all the systems to play any or all the games.  With the next generation, I was highly interested in the XB1 because I not only got the games, but all of the other features too.