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landguy1 on 14 September 2013
famousringo said:
adriane23 said:

Just like the 4, there's no compelling reason for me to upgrade to the 5S. Marginal increases/improvements should never warrant a yearly phone upgrade. That's like buying a new laptop every year. Sadly, all phone manufacturers are following Apple's footsteps as there's only so much you can "innovate" in a year's time.

Who upgrades yearly? Only the most deranged technophiles. Most upgrade on a two-year cycle, because that's how the contract goes. Hence why the enclosure changes once every two years.

The 5S is targeted at 4S owners, who will be upgrading to a larger, brighter, more colorful screen, a far superior camera, LTE networking, four times the compute power, a fingerprint scanner and numerous other improvements. Plenty of incentive to upgrade. 

As an owner of a 4s, you are right.  My contract ends in a little over a month.  But, there is no real reason for me to upgraade to a 5s.  It has very little difference from my 4s.  Very small screen size increase.  Same OS.   Games run mostly the same and the interface is no different.  I will be heading to a different company to get a better camera and larger screen.  Also, I did my 4s on Sprint and it is the WORST cell service in the world.



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famousringo on 15 September 2013
landguy1 said:
famousringo said:
adriane23 said:

Just like the 4, there's no compelling reason for me to upgrade to the 5S. Marginal increases/improvements should never warrant a yearly phone upgrade. That's like buying a new laptop every year. Sadly, all phone manufacturers are following Apple's footsteps as there's only so much you can "innovate" in a year's time.

Who upgrades yearly? Only the most deranged technophiles. Most upgrade on a two-year cycle, because that's how the contract goes. Hence why the enclosure changes once every two years.

The 5S is targeted at 4S owners, who will be upgrading to a larger, brighter, more colorful screen, a far superior camera, LTE networking, four times the compute power, a fingerprint scanner and numerous other improvements. Plenty of incentive to upgrade. 

As an owner of a 4s, you are right.  My contract ends in a little over a month.  But, there is no real reason for me to upgraade to a 5s.  It has very little difference from my 4s.  Very small screen size increase.  Same OS.   Games run mostly the same and the interface is no different.  I will be heading to a different company to get a better camera and larger screen.  Also, I did my 4s on Sprint and it is the WORST cell service in the world.


This is the first time I've ever seen Apple's software support actually spun as a negative.



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landguy1 on 15 September 2013
famousringo said:
landguy1 said:
famousringo said:
adriane23 said:

Just like the 4, there's no compelling reason for me to upgrade to the 5S. Marginal increases/improvements should never warrant a yearly phone upgrade. That's like buying a new laptop every year. Sadly, all phone manufacturers are following Apple's footsteps as there's only so much you can "innovate" in a year's time.

Who upgrades yearly? Only the most deranged technophiles. Most upgrade on a two-year cycle, because that's how the contract goes. Hence why the enclosure changes once every two years.

The 5S is targeted at 4S owners, who will be upgrading to a larger, brighter, more colorful screen, a far superior camera, LTE networking, four times the compute power, a fingerprint scanner and numerous other improvements. Plenty of incentive to upgrade. 

As an owner of a 4s, you are right.  My contract ends in a little over a month.  But, there is no real reason for me to upgraade to a 5s.  It has very little difference from my 4s.  Very small screen size increase.  Same OS.   Games run mostly the same and the interface is no different.  I will be heading to a different company to get a better camera and larger screen.  Also, I did my 4s on Sprint and it is the WORST cell service in the world.


This is the first time I've ever seen Apple's software support actually spun as a negative.

Then you either have no experience with it or don't read anything besides mainstream media reports on apple products.  Between me and my wife we have two iphones, apple tv, ipads, ipods, and recently failed(got zapped) macbook pro.  So I have some experience with apple products.  Apple products do "just work".  But, their ability to "just work" comes from very limited capability to personalize and upgrade.  So, you never get to change things around or add more storage(unless you want to pay for apple's cloud service).  It works great for beginner users or users that just have no interest in extending its life.  That is why you have to buy a new phone for sure every two years(or 1 yr if money is no object).  The phones used to have top line features, but they no longer do.  They newest iphone usually lacks 2-4 innovations that are already on the market.   So, by the time the 2 yr contract ends, you are 8 innovations behind and the newer iphone will only get you caught up to 2-4 innovations behind again.  Not having all of the innovations wouldn't be bad if the newest iphone wasn't also the most expensive phone too.



adriane23 on 15 September 2013
famousringo said:
adriane23 said:

Just like the 4, there's no compelling reason for me to upgrade to the 5S. Marginal increases/improvements should never warrant a yearly phone upgrade. That's like buying a new laptop every year. Sadly, all phone manufacturers are following Apple's footsteps as there's only so much you can "innovate" in a year's time.

Who upgrades yearly? Only the most deranged technophiles. Most upgrade on a two-year cycle, because that's how the contract goes. Hence why the enclosure changes once every two years.

The 5S is targeted at 4S owners, who will be upgrading to a larger, brighter, more colorful screen, a far superior camera, LTE networking, four times the compute power, a fingerprint scanner and numerous other improvements. Plenty of incentive to upgrade. 

A lot of people upgrade yearly, especially now that phone companies are allowing phone uprades either yearly or twice yearly.



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DavidWilliamApp on 20 September 2013

I absolutely love the new iPhone 5s! Apple might come up with new devices a bit too often but with each updates, a new super phone is born and innovation is never lacking. The latest devices the iPhone 5s and 5c are both impressive! Apple has always been perfect at combining aesthetic and functionality and these 2 new devices are the perfect example. 



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smbu2000 on 21 September 2013

The A7 SoC is looking to be pretty powerful so far. 1.3ghz dual core cpu and it does very well.

CPU performance:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5

versus previous iphones as well as vs the new Intel Bay Trail Atom:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/6

GPU, uses a new PowerVR G6430 gpu (compared to the SGX versions in previous iphones):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/7

Looking forward to the new (redesigned?) ipad with what should have the A7X with a higher clocked cpu and more gpu performance.




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ebw on 23 September 2013

The first round of numbers is in: 5s and 5c sold a combined 9 million units in the first weekend, compared to last year's 5 million. iPhone launch sales versus Samsungs: http://www.asymco.com/2013/09/23/iphones-5c-and-5s-launch-performance-illustrated/



famousringo on 23 September 2013

Every year it's the same. We see comments like this:

kowenicki said:

Perfect.

I honestly believe the bubble may have burst. I see a different attitude and response this time.

Previously it has just been tech enthusiasts saying "again!!??", now its the general public getting tired of the same old, same old.

Stock market reaction is even giving them the thumbs down on announcements these days.

And then we see facts like this:

ebw said:

The first round of numbers is in: 5s and 5c sold a combined 9 million units in the first weekend, compared to last year's 5 million. iPhone launch sales versus Samsungs: http://www.asymco.com/2013/09/23/iphones-5c-and-5s-launch-performance-illustrated/





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