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JoeTheBro on 08 September 2013
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:

Think of it this way.

VS

The art on the right obviously took more raw talent to create vs the art on the left. Creating the work on the right would have taken years while the one on the left could be constructed in a day. There is nothing wrong with preferring the art on the left, I personally like what it's getting at, but everyone can agree that art on the right is a much more impressive accomplishment of getting the idea from head to work.

Artistic video games are great, beautiful, incredible, etc., but the vast majority of the time it's just less impressive that they're running on the console.


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?



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fordy on 08 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:

Think of it this way.

VS

The art on the right obviously took more raw talent to create vs the art on the left. Creating the work on the right would have taken years while the one on the left could be constructed in a day. There is nothing wrong with preferring the art on the left, I personally like what it's getting at, but everyone can agree that art on the right is a much more impressive accomplishment of getting the idea from head to work.

Artistic video games are great, beautiful, incredible, etc., but the vast majority of the time it's just less impressive that they're running on the console.


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?



JoeTheBro on 08 September 2013
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.



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fordy on 08 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.

Photos are real life now....

Are you of any Australian Aboriginal heritage by chance? In particular, the ones whose beliefs are that photography/camera steal the person's soul and encapsulate it in the media?



fordy on 08 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.

In addition to this, you do realise that most (if not all) 3d animations taken for games these days involve a person wearing a motion suit in front of a green screen?



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JoeTheBro on 08 September 2013
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.

Photos are real life now....

Are you of any Australian Aboriginal heritage by chance? In particular, the ones whose beliefs are that photography/camera steal the person's soul and encapsulate it in the media?

Well I was assuming you meant a hypothetical camera.

Otherwise your question would have been beyond stupid in the sense that both photography and painting are legit art forms. Choosing one over the other as being more "artistic" is not something we can do.



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fordy on 08 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.

Photos are real life now....

Are you of any Australian Aboriginal heritage by chance? In particular, the ones whose beliefs are that photography/camera steal the person's soul and encapsulate it in the media?

Well I was assuming you meant a hypothetical camera.

Otherwise your question would have been beyond stupid in the sense that both photography and painting are legit art forms. Choosing one over the other as being more "artistic" is not something we can do.

Thank you for admitting that the Wii can have just as visually stunning artwork as any other console...



JoeTheBro on 08 September 2013
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:

Well I was assuming you meant a hypothetical camera.

Otherwise your question would have been beyond stupid in the sense that both photography and painting are legit art forms. Choosing one over the other as being more "artistic" is not something we can do.

Thank you for admitting that the Wii can have just as visually stunning artwork as any other console...

I've admitted that before... You're welcome?



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Play4Fun on 09 September 2013
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:


Where's the "art" in imitating RL things as close as possible?

Call it by it's real name: copied RL

So the Mona Lisa isn't art?

If somebody took a photo of the same girl in the same pose, which would you consider more "artistic"?

The painting. It's imitating real life while the photo is real life.

Photos are real life now....

Are you of any Australian Aboriginal heritage by chance? In particular, the ones whose beliefs are that photography/camera steal the person's soul and encapsulate it in the media?

Well I was assuming you meant a hypothetical camera.

Otherwise your question would have been beyond stupid in the sense that both photography and painting are legit art forms. Choosing one over the other as being more "artistic" is not something we can do.

Thank you for admitting that the Wii can have just as visually stunning artwork as any other console...

The Super Mario Galaxies are considered by many to be some of the most visually pleasing games of the 7th gen, and that comes from many people who also play PS360 games.

All during the gen, I've seen people drooling over Wind Waker's visuals on Dolphin.

Let him think what he wants.



fordy on 09 September 2013
JoeTheBro said:
fordy said:
JoeTheBro said:

Well I was assuming you meant a hypothetical camera.

Otherwise your question would have been beyond stupid in the sense that both photography and painting are legit art forms. Choosing one over the other as being more "artistic" is not something we can do.

Thank you for admitting that the Wii can have just as visually stunning artwork as any other console...

I've admitted that before... You're welcome?

 but everyone can agree that art on the right is a much more impressive accomplishment of getting the idea from head to work.

It's not as impressive of an accomplishment if it's done with skeletal suits and motion cameras. This is my point. This is what your analogy fails to pick up.

An individual cel shaded 2D game may have had a LOT more visual effort put into it than say, a 3D based game on a HD console...