sc94597 said:
- Assume the U.S is a nation-state. If this is true, then why are there sovereign states (50 of them as of today) which separate the nation? This is a contradiction.
A nation-state contains the whole nation and only that nation. It doesn't divide the nation among many other co-sovereign states. If you look at the period right after the revolution, you'll notice quite explicitly that there was no natural union among the colonies besides their geographical status. That's why the articles of confederation were tried, and that's why the U.S constitution was so contested. As time passed, these U.S became even more diversified with immigration.
You can look at Musollini's Italy and Nazi Germany to get examples of nationalism rooted in ethnicity. You can look at Serbia's succession from Austro-Hungary for nationalism rooted in history. You could look at modern day sessionist movements, such as Catalonia for how nation-states form from imperial ones.
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It's called federation, a lot of nations' form of state is federation, more or less centralized.
BTW Italy and Germany are prone examples of a newly established nations out of multiple states. The fact that Nazi Germany practiced ethnic cleansing doesn't rule out a fact that this was an attempt to build a nation after demise of WW1 on a very shacky ground of combination of Land's that could fell of rather easily dumping all previous efforts in nation-building since Bismarck. Hence the practices of repatriation of volksdeutsche (with very loose definitions of who is "deutsche" and who is not) or Austrian anschluss, which was very welcomed by Austrians. Why? Because they had similar problems after WW1 and dissolution of Austria-Hungary, the crisis of self-identification as a nation. Israel is another fresh expample of nation-building that didn't go too well, tons of such examples. Nationalism was discredited multiple times after all these years obviously.
So, all in all I think the problem of misunderstanding is in the following:
1) Our definitions of nation and ethnicity aren't perfectly aligned.
2) You perceive a nation as a modern person with modern mindset, where nation and nationalism are strictly negative things, descredited multiple times throughout the hsitory (happens with all political doctrines). Doesn't look like you get historical context here.
3) You think the US case is unique, which is true and not true at the same time. True to the degree of historical uniquness of said nation, not true because it could be easily typified and put in box as much as everyone else.