Good point, I wonder of how much the $140 million is net profit......because many games they do give away are still worth a decent amount in-store. Seems they are taking a hit to get the program off the ground.

But hey, as a gamer, there is nothing to complain about.

posts like this make me really want sony to release official numbers. i want them to say "we have X subscriptions and we earn Y dollars with that". but in all honesty, i think sony simply tries to hide it. if they loose money, it would be shameful. if they gain huge chunks of money, maybe publishers will yell at it. so yea... maybe they keep silent for a reason.

Considering we had no numbers of it "doubling" after E3......that only means the numbers were that much lower.

You can't dismiss math. Im sorry it doesn't work like that. Divide 2012 revenue of $140 million and you have 2.8 million suscribers in December 2012. This isn't a exact figure but a estimate based on whatever information we have been given. Im sorry but you shouldn't be defending this because you don't agree with the answer.

You say whatever hypotheticals you want, I just did some simple math. Less then 3 million subs on a optional service that is only 2 years old isn't bad per-se, it just means it has a long way to go to pull Live Gold numbers.

I feel PS+ has already done its work.

The games given to subscribers made most people who intend to buy PS4 ignore the fact that PS+ is now required for MP, since they will be renewing the subscriptions for their "Free Games' anyway.

Why make such broad statements about the entire Sony fanbase without any evidence what so ever? Comments like these never add to the discussion.

Despite the fact that all these numbers are pure guestimates, why on earth would you think the number of subscribers to PS+ would be higher or lower for that matter? It's completely optional. The instant game collection idea only really started gaining momentum over the last year..

Sony have also never disclosed subscription numbers.

Again i dont see why you would blindly follow a few fanatical sony fanboys on the internet about the popularity of PS+ instead of just using common sense. Same goes for Sales who seems shocked at the number. Kinda stupid imo.

Why the hell do people keep saying that the "Sony fanbase" loves sony for putting MP behind a paywall???

Seriously, where does this come from? The only people not bothered by the decision is people who are already subscribed to PS+.

I also think Sony has done well when covering the issue. They've never really sugar coated it....in most interviews with Sony management about this they repeatedly say that it's Sony's way of making more money. Plain and simple to the point. I'm glad they don't talk crap about how everyone who subscribes to PS+ will get free ponies and die happy and shit.

And while I don't agree with the decision i think the value they offer for the money is probably worth it. And at the very least free to play games and other services are not behing a paywall.

My guess is it helps their narrative...

Literally no one praised Sony for doing this (the most i have seen is just "unfortunate but expected" or "it makes sense" - it does btw)but this won't stop them from saying so... SMH

Not really. Gamers will have the choice of "Pay for online here, or pay for online there, but here you can still do plenty of things without paying." Would likely be a fairly easy sell when comparing the Xbox to PS. Nintendo will likely be the only ones to get any kind of benefit from it :P

I guess so...

It's just dissapointing seeing that kind of talk around here. Completely baseless. Its like a free for all...anyone can say anything nowadays and not have to back up what they saying.

My evidence is the internet and these numbers.  Am using common sense. If you don't see it, its because you are choosing not to.