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^^ That game looked awful, anyways, so i don't think anyone mind:P ^^



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Incubi said:
^^ That game looked awful, anyways, so i don't think anyone mind:P ^^


Likewise, game is a game tho, and next time it might be one that is highly anticipated.



 

Seece said:
Incubi said:
^^ That game looked awful, anyways, so i don't think anyone mind:P ^^


Likewise, game is a game tho, and next time it might be one that is highly anticipated.

There was this Star Wars game that got cancelled. Looked like the spiritual sequel to Rogue Squadron. That was actually sad, as i thought it looked really promising.



nin10do said:

Well... this happened.

Games have ben delayed because XBO/PS4 infrastructure has to be redone for both, apparently they are in shambles.
Deadrising 3 features removed because XBO infrastructure is a mess.
You need to keep the PS3 copy of a game for the trade-up program
COD Ghosts at 720p for BOTH PS4 and XBO.
COD Ghosts at 1080p... for Wii U

Last but certainly not least... PS4 Day One Patch removes the on system DRM that was there from the start. Sony has been very, very sly and naughty these last few months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6h9l5Gb5hE

User was warned for this post - Kantor

cod ghosts is 1080P on PS4 - confirmed

PS4 never had DRM on there - confirmed

 

why would you believe this video when all of it is proven bullshit? Are you purposely acting oblivious to reality? 



Incubi said:
Seece said:
Incubi said:
^^ That game looked awful, anyways, so i don't think anyone mind:P ^^


Likewise, game is a game tho, and next time it might be one that is highly anticipated.

There was this Star Wars game that got cancelled. Looked like the spiritual sequel to Rogue Squadron. That was actually sad, as i thought it looked really promising.


Yeah I saw that footage. Looked really cool :(



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Daisuke72 said:
nin10do said:

Well... this happened.

Games have ben delayed because XBO/PS4 infrastructure has to be redone for both, apparently they are in shambles.
Deadrising 3 features removed because XBO infrastructure is a mess.
You need to keep the PS3 copy of a game for the trade-up program
COD Ghosts at 720p for BOTH PS4 and XBO.
COD Ghosts at 1080p... for Wii U

Last but certainly not least... PS4 Day One Patch removes the on system DRM that was there from the start. Sony has been very, very sly and naughty these last few months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6h9l5Gb5hE

User was warned for this post - Kantor

cod ghosts is 1080P on PS4 - confirmed

PS4 never had DRM on there - confirmed

 

why would you believe this video when all of it is proven bullshit? Are you purposely acting oblivious to reality? 

do you work by sony or why do you know the drm thing?



Yuukiwr said:
Daisuke72 said:
nin10do said:

Well... this happened.

Games have ben delayed because XBO/PS4 infrastructure has to be redone for both, apparently they are in shambles.
Deadrising 3 features removed because XBO infrastructure is a mess.
You need to keep the PS3 copy of a game for the trade-up program
COD Ghosts at 720p for BOTH PS4 and XBO.
COD Ghosts at 1080p... for Wii U

Last but certainly not least... PS4 Day One Patch removes the on system DRM that was there from the start. Sony has been very, very sly and naughty these last few months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6h9l5Gb5hE

User was warned for this post - Kantor

cod ghosts is 1080P on PS4 - confirmed

PS4 never had DRM on there - confirmed

 

why would you believe this video when all of it is proven bullshit? Are you purposely acting oblivious to reality? 

do you work by sony or why do you know the drm thing?


Because they announced no DRM before manufacturing even began...and Yoshida already disproved it on twitter. Anyone with common sense can see that the rumors were fake.

 

lol you actually believe that lowering the resolution. something down on local hardware, strains the online infrastructure more? That literally makes 0 sense. I'm a computer science major and the fact that people can be mislead with such retarded science fictiony reasoning pisses me off. 



Anfebious said:
You know zod96 I was really reading all the arguments that you posted against john lucas but then you said this:

"Ok, lets get things straight: when I say "hardcore games" I'm refering to games that are really from the present generation and "casual" when they are retro (and almost any Wii game is retro, from Wii Sports to Mario Galaxy, from Wii Party to NSMB, from Mario Kart to Kirby, etc.). If you want, I can shift it to "real games" and "mini-games"."

After I read this I retired myself to drink some coffe and analyze the words that you wrote... And I must say, I don't understand what the hell are you talking about.

You say that games from this generations are the "hardcore games" and everything that is retro is a "casual game" or as you like to say "mini-games". I never saw this kind of argument before, I never saw this level of ignorance about videogames. I really hope you where kidding.

It's not an argument, it's how I politely named things.

As the videogaming industry goes further and further, it opens itself not only to different types of experiences but also different levels. In the 1st generation of games, there were only games from 1st generation. In the 4th generation, there were games from 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 1st gen. And now there are games from all generations, from PC flash games (something between 1st and 4th gen) to PS4/XOne next-gen titles (8th gen), passing through Wii's most emblematic games like Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii and NSMB Wii (around 5th or 6th gen) and also, for instance, Rockstar's innovative current titles like Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire and GTA V (7th gen). Why such diversity? First, because of production costs (some devs are willing to spend more than others). Second, because there were gaming experiences in the past that are still enjoyable today.

How to differentiate all of this? There are several flexible concepts, like old-school/innovative, casual/hardcore, etc. To don't seem rude, I had opted to use the casual/hardcore nomenclature. But it seems people got offended with that, so I've just decided to be straight and call things by their real (more appropriate) names: "mini-games" (low-budget titles from previous generations) and "real games" (high-budget titles from the current generation). I'm sorry if you don't like the truth.

 

 

JohannStrauss said:

Also your statement, let me show what is wrong:

"But guess what? Playstation will miss that...Sony will remain in the kindergarten level...Kazuo will continue to make easy money while fooling Sony fans like you."

"But guess what? Xbox One will miss that...Microsoft will remain in the kindergarten level...Balmer will continue to make easy money while fooling Microsoft fans like you."

 

"Sony has remained on the "hardcore" niche, once they saw it was easier to fool childreen than teenagers or adults. That's what you get from a company that you think it deserved to dominate the industry. I just don't want to imagine how mediocre the industry would become if that happened."

"Microsoft has remained on the "hardcore" niche, once they saw it was easier to fool childreen than teenagers or adults. That's what you get from a company that you think it deserved to dominate the industry. I just don't want to imagine how mediocre the industry would become if that happened."

See? its not hard to twist your argument.

Not hard at all, specially if you blatantly lie.

PS4 and XOne will not miss the 8th gen titles.

Sony and Microsoft are not in the kindergarten level like Nintendo is. Sony has Gran Turismo, Microsoft has Forza, Nintendo has Mario Kart. Which one is the kindergarten game? Well...I don't know...let's try one more time: Sony has Killzone, Microsoft has Halo, Nintendo has Metroid Prime. Hm....let's try again: Sony has MLB The Show, Microsoft has no sports game (at least I don't remember anyone), Nintendo has Mario Strikers. Which one is the kindergarten game? Well, maybe these are just exceptions, let's stop talking about specific titles and let's talk about game genres: who has racing simulators? Sony and Microsoft do, Nintendo doesn't. Who has action simulators? Sony and Microsoft do, Nintendo doesn't. Strategy simulators? Sony and Microsoft do (at least as 3rd party titles), Nintendo doesn't. Does Nintendo produce any photo-realistic game at all? I guess that's too expensive for them.

Kindergarten games are cheaper and easier to fool people. There's no need to put millions of polygons on each vehicle and try to make them look like the real ones. There's no need to invest on gaming physics and spending money renting real cars for tests in order to put the virtual ones behaving like them. There's no need to invest hundreds or thousands of hours (and money) taking photos to real circuits or real cities and replicate them. There's no need to spend a fortune creating HD open worlds with thousands of kms of roads in a MMO racing or action game. It's much easier to put the old same old 3D Mario (designed in 1996) running in the old same old cartoon 3D worlds (or even 2D worlds) through an old same old linear gameplay with little or no innovation at all. Low-budget kindergarten games is the most intelligent way to maximize profits. Plus, since there is no HD realistic graphics, no sim physics, no photo-realistic content, no MMO environments...nothing at all that could be somehow measurable and compared to other titles, Nintendo gets a bunch of fans just saying "hey, you produce the best games!"...the best in what? Gameplay? That is subjective. I may like, others may dislike.

But the funny thing is that those very same fans dare to say "kindergarten?...Nintendo?...n..n..no...that's Sony and Microsoft! They are the ones that target kids the most and try to make easy money...easy like modeling real cars with millions of polygons...easy like rendering environments with thousands of kms...easy like recreating parts of London, Macau, New York, St Petersburg, Shangai, etc...those are the easy things...difficult is to make tiny and cartoonish environments, that's hard!". LOL



Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 70M      WiiU: 25M

Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 100M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 18M

Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 90M      XOne: 40M      WiiU: 15M      Switch: 20M

Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020:      PS4: 110M      XOne: 50M      WiiU: 14M      Switch: 65M

@zod95 Again I thought you where going to have a point but you seem to classify games in your own way. You are telling me that Wii sports is part of the 6th gen because of production values and that is quite stupid!

Try to think about it for a little and you will know how dumb it sounds.

You are classifying a game by it's production values in generations, which you say are eight like the consoles. You are associating console generations with videogame production values. You are calling anything that isn't high budget from the current generation a "mini game". Everything that does meet the requirements you say are "real games".

I can't take you seriously, what you said is incoherent . I really don't want to disscuss with you, you seem to know nothing. Maybe you need to understand that Wii sports is a 7th gen title even if it hurts you. Don't reply my message, I don't want to talk with you anymore.



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Apparently people on this thread like changing the definition of certain things. I'll join in too.

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