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joeorc on 27 November 2013
Augen said:
Conegamer said:
Out of curiosity, how big is Doctor Who outside of the UK? I could never quite figure out how much of an impact the BBC and shows like this and Top Gear, for example, have.


I would say before the 9th Doctor it was virtually non existent in the states.  When that version came out it was carried on the Science Fiction channel and had bit of marketing push.  After that I think BBC America took over and ran with 10th Doctor when it felt like it broke through into "nerd culture" with the Tardis and sonic screwdriver and all being referenced and people dressing up as Doctors at conventions.

I would say ask most over 40s in the states and they could be completely ignorant of its exsistence.  Ask 10-30 old and get mix of not heard of it, hate it or really really love it (there is deifnitely a hardcore fan base thanks to 10th and 11th Doctor).  I am not sure it will ever break through to main stream being on BBC America, but I can say I see Doctor Who shirts and merchandise far far more prevalent now than even five years ago.  

I have heard many older fans see the 12th Doctor as the great culling given how many young women love Doctor Who since the 10th as a romantic interest.  Be interesting to see how having an older actor int he role affects that culture.

durring the late 70's on PBS in the states on Sat. Dr. who was ran for quite a while i watched it all the time.



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joeorc on 27 November 2013
Zappykins said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
Zappykins said:
He is the kind of actor, other actors s dream about working with someday. If you watch Torchwood, he is really, really good.

I am a bit surprised by his age. But meh, the Doctor is well over 900 and running out of regenerations.

Is is an outstanding actor, I look forward to watching him.

That actually isnt true any more. I dont know the story but if you think about it, he is supose to 12 of them yet if you add in Hurt and the new guy, that gives him 13 regenerations. It could be from where River gave him her regeneration energy in one episode or it could just be dropped and forgotten but Matt Smith would be 12 and the last one so for him to regen into someone else, something has changed somewhere

The first doctor was probably the orginal one, so he didn't need to regerate.  So you start at zero.  Patrick Troughton, the 2nd Doctor, would be the first regeneration.  Which is a faily safe deduction of you go off Peter David's first eppisode called 'The 5 Doctors.'

Matt Smith would be the 10th regenration, which makes Peter Capaldi the 11th.  It is very clear in the lore that you can have more than 12 regenerations, but that things start to go wrong.  His old firend, teacher and sometimes alley sometimes enemy The Master has gome way beyond 12.  It might be part of the reason he is a homisidal maniac.

2 year old Spoiler:

River brought him back to life, it wasn't a regeneration.

If you want to look at some of the old lore I recomend going back to the Tom Baker days and look  The Brain of Morbius.  If he can get more Elixir of Life,  then who knows what is possible - they like to break the laws of physic and time anyway.  But they haven't talked about the fate of the the Sisterhood of Karn since we learned of Galefery's fate.

Most of the Time Lordw can actually control their regeneration, as they can the camelion circut on the TARDIS.  His fellow Time Lord companion Romana tried out several defferent species and bodies once before she decided on one.

yes quite true, but the master Absorbed the life force of those he took over the body's from. after his 12th he was in a semi liquid energy form, kinda like protoplasm, the Time lord attacks the Mind of the person in a battle of will's for the body, if the time lord win's he consumer's the sould of the target. That is how the master was able to maintain some body's other like in the movie the body would advance decay, and he needed another time lord to rob them of their regenerations. there was other races, and on Gallifrey where a time lord could in fact get a whole set of new regenerations. but the black scrolls are kinda banned for time lords to use, that an the weapons in the for example

 

Time Vaults on Gallifrey

 

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Vaults



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joeorc on 27 November 2013

yes i did, and it was very awesome...but of course more thing's open to branch off the story, pretty cool movie.



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joeorc on 27 November 2013
roborad said:
how is capaldi the new doctor?
didn't we already see him in that pompei episode?

Smith is going to regenerate this Dec in the special.



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Augen on 27 November 2013
joeorc said:
Augen said:
Conegamer said:
Out of curiosity, how big is Doctor Who outside of the UK? I could never quite figure out how much of an impact the BBC and shows like this and Top Gear, for example, have.


I would say before the 9th Doctor it was virtually non existent in the states.  When that version came out it was carried on the Science Fiction channel and had bit of marketing push.  After that I think BBC America took over and ran with 10th Doctor when it felt like it broke through into "nerd culture" with the Tardis and sonic screwdriver and all being referenced and people dressing up as Doctors at conventions.

I would say ask most over 40s in the states and they could be completely ignorant of its exsistence.  Ask 10-30 old and get mix of not heard of it, hate it or really really love it (there is deifnitely a hardcore fan base thanks to 10th and 11th Doctor).  I am not sure it will ever break through to main stream being on BBC America, but I can say I see Doctor Who shirts and merchandise far far more prevalent now than even five years ago.  

I have heard many older fans see the 12th Doctor as the great culling given how many young women love Doctor Who since the 10th as a romantic interest.  Be interesting to see how having an older actor int he role affects that culture.

durring the late 70's on PBS in the states on Sat. Dr. who was ran for quite a while i watched it all the time.

My experience is admittedly anecdotal, but I have never met a single 40+ that has heard of it, much less watched it growing up. While met plenty of sub 30 who have heard of it, watch it, and love it.

I can go in my local book store Barnes and Noble and they have a massive display of Daleks and Tardis and all.  I think the internet has definitely caused a boom to its awareness in the states.



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famousringo on 27 November 2013

LOL at the people trying to decode the lore of a series that's run for 50 years and had hundreds of creative staff work on it. There are already retcons and contradictions all over the place. Some series haven't even been internally consistent.

The Doctor is going to have as many regenerations as the people making the show at any given moment need him to have. Never let a minute plot point get in the way of a good story.

As to how popular Dr. Who is outside the UK, I haven't got hard evidence, but I get the impression that it's the BBC's biggest export next to Top Gear.



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Soleron on 27 November 2013

Doctor Who doesn't have a remotely consistent canon. The whole 50th year episode is proof of that; any attempt to reconcile it with the last seven series requires tons of fan-theorizing.

I hope that people can agree that the regeneration limit and the Time War in general are just simply retconned out for production reasons.



Soleron on 27 November 2013
famousringo said:
LOL at the people trying to decode the lore of a series that's run for 50 years and had hundreds of creative staff work on it. There are already retcons and contradictions all over the place. Some series haven't even been internally consistent.

The Doctor is going to have as many regenerations as the people making the show at any given moment need him to have. Never let a minute plot point get in the way of a good story.

As to how popular Dr. Who is outside the UK, I haven't got hard evidence, but I get the impression that it's the BBC's biggest export next to Top Gear.

lol we made the same post at the same time



joeorc on 27 November 2013
Augen said:

My experience is admittedly anecdotal, but I have never met a single 40+ that has heard of it, much less watched it growing up. While met plenty of sub 30 who have heard of it, watch it, and love it.

I can go in my local book store Barnes and Noble and they have a massive display of Daleks and Tardis and all.  I think the internet has definitely caused a boom to its awareness in the states.

well while your insite i , would say is pretty spot on, as for wide adoption, there was many such as myself that have been on BBS boards for years, or in MUD's that talked all the time about Dr. Who heck even that time FASA role playing for Dr. who was one of the best places to delve more information about the Dr. Who universe, the races, the character and the lil back storys going on.

back in the mid 80's this was released:

http://homepages.bw.edu/~jcurtis/fasa.htm

the source book on the Daleks was pretty Awesome, along with the Cybermen, the Master and seeing the Rani being such a Fun and entertaining Evil Time Lord, that in many ways was even more entertaining than the Master himself.

those plans, he always had for the Universe..Lmao



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joeorc on 27 November 2013
Soleron said:

Doctor Who doesn't have a remotely consistent canon. The whole 50th year episode is proof of that; any attempt to reconcile it with the last seven series requires tons of fan-theorizing.

I hope that people can agree that the regeneration limit and the Time War in general are just simply retconned out for production reasons.

it depends on your reference Point! and always the Reference point is the Dr.

well when on one hand you can make any thing in time work on story wise, its always consistent canon, because you can go to any point in

time and change it.

Time Lords are called Time lords for a reason. Think of it as .

The TARDIS can go to any time, place or dimension, anything and every thing can be canon. making sense of it all is pretty, far stretching,the only reference point is the Dr. The companion's and The TARDIS.

The point is the Story is always told from the Dr.'s Perspective. it would be pretty cool to see it from the Master's Perspective for once though as a series. 



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ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.