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roborad on 10 May 2015
shikamaru317 said:
Scalebound for me. Turn 10 needs to win me back over after Forza 5 disappointed me.


I honestly think that turn 10 was just rushed by microsoft for the x1 launch.

the game needed an additional year of development time.



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roborad on 10 May 2015
shikamaru317 said:
roborad said:
shikamaru317 said:
Scalebound for me. Turn 10 needs to win me back over after Forza 5 disappointed me.

I honestly think that turn 10 was just rushed by microsoft for the x1 launch.

the game needed an additional year of development time.

I agree, it seemed rushed, I think MS wanted it as a launch title and I don't think it was ready yet since Turn 10 decided to start over from scratch for next-gen instead of reusing last-gen assets. Hopefully 2 years for Forza 6 was enough, since they could build off of what they already had for Forza 5. Guess we'll find out at E3.

sigh...i still wish ms would give forza games 3 year dev cycles.  they deserve it.



roborad on 10 May 2015
shikamaru317 said:
roborad said:
 

sigh...i still wish ms would give forza games 3 year dev cycles.

I agree. They should add a Kart racing game into the cycle so that we can have a 3 year dev cycle.


you know what'd be awesome?

if they got a studio to develop a forza-burnout game.  i'd pick that up in a heartbeat.



Goatseye on 10 May 2015

Turn10 has around 300 people in their staff for FM series.
They have delivered so far critically, until FM5, which faults are not technical in any way.



roborad on 10 May 2015
Goatseye said:
Turn10 has around 300 people in their staff for FM series.
They have delivered so far critically, until FM5, which faults are not technical in any way.


i agree.

the only downside to f5 was content.



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TheSting on 10 May 2015
shikamaru317 said:

*sigh* Some of you guys, how can you not tell that a large amount of Xbox's former RPG fanbase hasn't returned this generation?

Dragon Age is the perfect example:

Dragon Age Origins Xbox 360: 2.53m
Dragon Age Origins All Platforms: 4.8m
Dragon Age Origins ratio: 52% Xbox 360

Dragon Age Inquisition Xbox One: 0.65m
Dragon Age Inquisition Xbox One + Xbox 360: 1.03m
Dragon Age Inquisition All Platforms: 3.37m
Dragon Age Inquisition ratio: 19% Xbox One, 30% Xbox family

So Dragon Age's ratio on Xbox has fallen from 52% to 30%, and that's including 360.

Here's another example, Final Fantasy:

Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360: 2.12
Final Fantasy XIII all platforms: 7.39
Final Fantasy XIII ratio: 28% Xbox 360

Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Xbox One: 0.07m
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD all platforms: 0.54m
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD ratio: 12% Xbox One

So Final Fantasy ratio on Xbox has fallen from 28% to 12%.

Yes, the increased amount of digital sales this generation does factor into this somewhat, as does the fact that PS4 is selling better than Xbox One overall. However, you can clearly see that other genres haven't declined as sharply as RPG has, for instance CoD's ratio has only declined from 47% for Black Ops II to 39% for Advanced Warfare, and Madden's ratio has only declined from 48% for Madden 12 to 43% for Madden 15.


Are you also taking in account the install base? What was the base when those games released? You're also adding total sales from those games from a 65+M console base

 

Edit I skipped over the combined sales. I believe we should wait until the base gets more substantial. I do believe some have left 360 but there's also some who've yet to upgrade. I personally know 6 ppl that are waiting still. With all the games both systems had and the problems it's had I recommend them to wait. Last generation could have went a year longer without the new systems coming out. 



roborad on 10 May 2015
TheSting said:
shikamaru317 said:

*sigh* Some of you guys, how can you not tell that a large amount of Xbox's former RPG fanbase hasn't returned this generation?

Dragon Age is the perfect example:

Dragon Age Origins Xbox 360: 2.53m
Dragon Age Origins All Platforms: 4.8m
Dragon Age Origins ratio: 52% Xbox 360

Dragon Age Inquisition Xbox One: 0.65m
Dragon Age Inquisition Xbox One + Xbox 360: 1.03m
Dragon Age Inquisition All Platforms: 3.37m
Dragon Age Inquisition ratio: 19% Xbox One, 30% Xbox family

So Dragon Age's ratio on Xbox has fallen from 52% to 30%, and that's including 360.

Here's another example, Final Fantasy:

Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360: 2.12
Final Fantasy XIII all platforms: 7.39
Final Fantasy XIII ratio: 28% Xbox 360

Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Xbox One: 0.07m
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD all platforms: 0.54m
Final Fantasy Type-0 HD ratio: 12% Xbox One

So Final Fantasy ratio on Xbox has fallen from 28% to 12%.

Yes, the increased amount of digital sales this generation does factor into this somewhat, as does the fact that PS4 is selling better than Xbox One overall. However, you can clearly see that other genres haven't declined as sharply as RPG has, for instance CoD's ratio has only declined from 47% for Black Ops II to 39% for Advanced Warfare, and Madden's ratio has only declined from 48% for Madden 12 to 43% for Madden 15.


Are you also taking in account the install base? What was the base when those games released? You're also adding total sales from those games from a 65+M console base

also, you have to consider the fact that the xbox 360 was the first HD console on the market and had a one year jumpstart over the ps3, so you can imagine that a ton of hardcore gamers who contribute to the rpg base jumped to the x360 as they probably didn't want to wait for the ps3.   



kinisking on 10 May 2015
roborad said:
TheSting said:


Are you also taking in account the install base? What was the base when those games released? You're also adding total sales from those games from a 65+M console base

also, you have to consider the fact that the xbox 360 was the first HD console on the market and had a one year jumpstart over the ps3, so you can imagine that a ton of hardcore gamers who contribute to the rpg base jumped to the x360 as they probably didn't want to wait for the ps3.   

Also no major wrpg exclusives yet. Who said the fan based went to ps4?maybe they're just waiting for a reason to upgrade 



Ltd predictions by the time 9th Gen comes out

Ps4:110million

Xbox one :75 million( was 65) 

Wii u: 20 milliion

TheSting on 10 May 2015

How do you play Breakdown and Lifeline in State of Decay? I beat the game and continued and it took me right before i finished the last part. I started a new game like a dumbass and erased my progress.



Goatseye on 10 May 2015
TheSting said:
How do you play Breakdown and Lifeline in State of Decay? I beat the game and continued and it took me right before i finished the last part. I started a new game like a dumbass and erased my progress.

You can choose between normal SOD, Breakdown and Lifelline
 before you start any a game.