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endimion on 29 November 2013
JerCotter7 said:
endimion said:
JerCotter7 said:
endimion said:
JayWood2010 said:
yo_john117 said:

Excellent first week IMO. But what's up with the PS4 drop? I would have thought they'd be closer to 200k not 100k.


As I mentioned above PS4 is extremely limited in America likely due to them focusing on europe.  Our black friday we had 6 PS4's and roughly 30-50 XBO's.  I expect this to go on for a week or two.  Maybe even three.  XBO actually may Catch PS4 in America by 2014 if it is as limited as it appears compared to XBO in america.

Either way, Ps4 will outsell XBO world wide no doubts.


I wouldn't be so sure about outselling world wide for the holliday season... not that demand is not higher for PS4 it is more than likely higher... but I'm not sure they handled their stock/shipping properly or at least they might have diluted it too much globaly.... shortage might be an issue for PS4 compared to XB being focused on 13 countries... we might end up having XB one being first ww come january after that PS4 will gain control fast unless XB surfs on momentum and titanfall grabs a lot of people.... but as I stated before launch I'm sure both console will be closer in sale than ever before in console wars....

You do realise if they sell 3million world wide it is still the same number as 3million in NA. Spreading the launch wont stop them selling more. Having less supply is the only thing that can do that.

thank you I know that... that's why I specified shipping.... transit is to be taken into account.... pre orders will be filled but beside that other buyers want stock in store.... if they can't ship in time they might lose that customer.... that's where dilution of stock is relevant.... and transit time.... and it is yet to be proven that MS will have ship less stock than sony...

what I'm trying to say is constent availability or at least redundant in 13 countries might be better for your sales than shortage lasting too long.... a lot of casual customer are not dead set on which console they will buy like we are for some of us... which can make it an issue for Sony if MS ends up being more readily available... that's how you build momentum.... if timmy and tomy wanted a PS4 but couldn't and timmy got an XB one instead maybe tommy will get one since his friend got one.... right now it is not down to stock per say it is down to image and momentum you can build in those countries you launch in.... I'd take 1 million sale in 2 countries launch over 1 million diluted over 10 countries any day when it comes down to image and momentum.... now we'll see how patient people are...

Wasn't the Wii in short supply for nearly 2 years? Didn't hurt it.


we all know the Wii case is a huge exception... most of that demand where "new gamers"... they were surfing on the motion crase... and it wasn't directly competing with PS and XB per say.... that's why you had Wii60 and PSWii combo owners a lot last gen
and you just had 2 console at launch... one high end visual gaming and one really aimed at a wider range of players types and age... my local retirement house had like half a dozen Wiis for the grand kids to play with their grandparents during visitation they even had that in their activity curcicullum with bowling tourney and all....
here PS and XB launch together and are vastly similar in appeal to the common gamer looking for classic gaming (outside of PC) the problematic is way different IMO... or at least as a marketing professional I see MS and Sony customer base crossing over each other way more than with the Wii or even Wii U customer base.... a little like Ferrari customer base might cross over more with lanborgini than with a mini van or suberban car brand....

anyway this is the XB nation



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JerCotter7 on 29 November 2013
endimion said:
JerCotter7 said:
endimion said:
JerCotter7 said:
endimion said:
JayWood2010 said:
yo_john117 said:

Excellent first week IMO. But what's up with the PS4 drop? I would have thought they'd be closer to 200k not 100k.


As I mentioned above PS4 is extremely limited in America likely due to them focusing on europe.  Our black friday we had 6 PS4's and roughly 30-50 XBO's.  I expect this to go on for a week or two.  Maybe even three.  XBO actually may Catch PS4 in America by 2014 if it is as limited as it appears compared to XBO in america.

Either way, Ps4 will outsell XBO world wide no doubts.


I wouldn't be so sure about outselling world wide for the holliday season... not that demand is not higher for PS4 it is more than likely higher... but I'm not sure they handled their stock/shipping properly or at least they might have diluted it too much globaly.... shortage might be an issue for PS4 compared to XB being focused on 13 countries... we might end up having XB one being first ww come january after that PS4 will gain control fast unless XB surfs on momentum and titanfall grabs a lot of people.... but as I stated before launch I'm sure both console will be closer in sale than ever before in console wars....

You do realise if they sell 3million world wide it is still the same number as 3million in NA. Spreading the launch wont stop them selling more. Having less supply is the only thing that can do that.

thank you I know that... that's why I specified shipping.... transit is to be taken into account.... pre orders will be filled but beside that other buyers want stock in store.... if they can't ship in time they might lose that customer.... that's where dilution of stock is relevant.... and transit time.... and it is yet to be proven that MS will have ship less stock than sony...

what I'm trying to say is constent availability or at least redundant in 13 countries might be better for your sales than shortage lasting too long.... a lot of casual customer are not dead set on which console they will buy like we are for some of us... which can make it an issue for Sony if MS ends up being more readily available... that's how you build momentum.... if timmy and tomy wanted a PS4 but couldn't and timmy got an XB one instead maybe tommy will get one since his friend got one.... right now it is not down to stock per say it is down to image and momentum you can build in those countries you launch in.... I'd take 1 million sale in 2 countries launch over 1 million diluted over 10 countries any day when it comes down to image and momentum.... now we'll see how patient people are...

Wasn't the Wii in short supply for nearly 2 years? Didn't hurt it.


we all know the Wii case is a huge exception... most of that demand where "new gamers"... they were surfing on the motion crase... and it wasn't directly competing with PS and XB per say.... that's why you had Wii60 and PSWii combo owners a lot last gen
and you just had 2 console at launch... one high end visual gaming and one really aimed at a wider range of players types and age... my local retirement house had like half a dozen Wiis for the grand kids to play with their grandparents during visitation they even had that in their activity curcicullum with bowling tourney and all....
here PS and XB launch together and are vastly similar in appeal to the common gamer looking for classic gaming (outside of PC) the problematic is way different IMO... or at least as a marketing professional I see MS and Sony customer base crossing over each other way more than with the Wii or even Wii U customer base.... a little like Ferrari customer base might cross over more with lanborgini than with a mini van or suberban car brand....

anyway this is the XB nation

You just used the worst possible example ever. Ferrari waiting lists are months. Some cars can be over 12 months. Anyone who orders one wont just change their mind and get a lambo. Whereas with a minivan they easily will. But that is off topic.

Also I'm not sure this being xb nation has anything to do with it. It's a discusion about sales for the xbone. You even brought it up in the first place. I was done with the conversion until you decided to try hide behind that.



Jaywood2010 on 29 November 2013

havent even been reading the conversation but calm yourselves down. Cut down the quote trees as well




       

endimion on 29 November 2013
JerCotter7 said:

You just used the worst possible example ever. Ferrari waiting lists are months. Some cars can be over 12 months. Anyone who orders one wont just change their mind and get a lambo. Whereas with a minivan they easily will. But that is off topic.

Also I'm not sure this being xb nation has anything to do with it. It's a discusion about sales for the xbone. You even brought it up in the first place. I was done with the conversion until you decided to try hide behind that.


you really try hard anyway this will be my last post on the matter I'm going out after that.... I was using an exemple of target market with ferrari.... not comparing product or waiting list.... those are two completely different business anyway..... I could have used Coca cola and pepsi compared to fanta....

I don't hide behind anything.... I'm saying having shortage for XB or PS is more of an issue than for Wii for countries they are competing in this year... and I have no doubt about the validity of that fact....

even if sales globaly end up being higher for PS it is not good for them to have a lower stock percentage per country they compete in right now (the 13 MS launch countries in that case)...especially during holliday season... that's my point... once again I'd rather have the same stock but readily available on less countries than be with the same amount spread among a lot of countries with constent shortage especilly this time of the year... in other words I'm saying regardless of stock size Ms might end up gaining more momentum in those 13  countries (that are some of the most relevant market for consoles) if they are available more easily from now till december and Sony is out of stock.... simple as that... this could end up in a snowball effect in favor of MS... we'll see it is exciting times for people interested in sales...



JoeTheBro on 29 November 2013
yo_john117 said:
JayWood2010 said:

Xbox One 1.2 Million First Week Sold.  800k America and 330K Europe

 

PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
797,882 326,208 N/A 1,178,527
163,290 216,945 77,372 490,812
59,564 91,413 12,344 201,920
70,774 36,683 365 116,724
52,934 31,249 20,524 111,046
93,794 N/A N/A 93,794
16,463 38,713 30,683 93,549
43,002 34,004 630 85,118
1,881 27,268 3,460 51,929
9,964 6,885 14 17,981


Excellent first week IMO. But what's up with the PS4 drop? I would have thought they'd be closer to 200k not 100k.

Just like with XBONE, Sony will be holding back stock till Black Friday. The 93k is actually more for the PS4 than I expected last week.

 

Also, XBONE is currently beating the PS4 world wide!!!!!!! So great to see the front page updated.



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JerCotter7 on 29 November 2013
JayWood2010 said:
havent even been reading the conversation but calm yourselves down. Cut down the quote trees as well


Sorry Jay. Was calm until the last post.



Jaywood2010 on 29 November 2013
JerCotter7 said:
JayWood2010 said:
havent even been reading the conversation but calm yourselves down. Cut down the quote trees as well


Sorry Jay. Was calm until the last post.


Youre fine xD  No worries :)




       

yo_john117 on 29 November 2013

Guys I desperately need your help. I live with a bunch of super trolls that found a way to remotely do things from the computer (Windows 8) on my Xbox One like Xbox TV and stuff. It's really annoying and I need to find a way to block them from the Xbox.

Please help me guys :s



endimion on 29 November 2013
yo_john117 said:
Guys I desperately need your help. I live with a bunch of super trolls that found a way to remotely do things from the computer (Windows 8) on my Xbox One like Xbox TV and stuff. It's really annoying and I need to find a way to block them from the Xbox.

Please help me guys :s


they are probably using smartglass I don't have a one yet but maybe you can block smartglass devices from the XBox... or you do like me you start spanking lol :)



yo_john117 on 29 November 2013
endimion said:
yo_john117 said:
Guys I desperately need your help. I live with a bunch of super trolls that found a way to remotely do things from the computer (Windows 8) on my Xbox One like Xbox TV and stuff. It's really annoying and I need to find a way to block them from the Xbox.

Please help me guys :s


they are probably using smartglass I don't have a one yet but maybe you can block smartglass devices from the XBox... or you do like me you start spanking lol :)

Its not smartglass :/

 

That i can block.