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Egann said:
KHlover said:
Egann said:

My mother is actually part of a lawsuit against a drug company. They gave her an osteoperosis drug which was known to cause necrosis of the jaw. Of course, they didn't tell her.

She also was almost given Alzheimers by her statin drugs.

This is terrible news. Not only do doctors receive money from the drug companies for prescribing their drugs, but they're now immune to legal action? This is terrible. It's a fantastic example of our government obeying the lobbyists and doing the thing least in our interest.

http://www.fightdementia.org.au/alzheimers-australia-official-statement-statins-and-dementia.aspx
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2012/04april/Pages/papers-claim-statins-stop-alzheimers.aspx

According to these articles it seems like Statin has no significant relation to Alzheimer's at all. We don't even know what actually causes Alzheimer's yet. And even if Statin led to permanent cognitive side-effects (which according to the FDA it doesn't, as stated in above link) it still would only have increased the probabilty to suffer from Alzheimer's, not caused it. That's a major difference. If that stuff really, without fail actually caused Alzheimer's, it would be banned ASAP.


True-ish, but in medicine there is no such thing as taking something and it 100% always causing an effect. Phineas Gage comes to mind: people usually don't survive having a railroad spike blast through their cranium and take a teacup worth of gray matter with it.

That said, statins are linked to all sorts of mental illnesses. Schitzophrenia, paralysis, and general damage to the nervous system. Taking this stuff for extended periods of time is literally psychosis in a bottle, and heart attack survivors are supposed to take them indefinitely.

http://www.westonaprice.org/cardiovascular-disease/dangers-of-statin-drugs

Taking statins for one year raised the risk of nerve damage by about 15 percent--about one case for every 2,200 patients. For those who took statins for two or more years, the additional risk rose to 26 percent.

Hm, not sure what to make of this article. On one hand, she doesn't seem to be a scam (One of her dissertations was reviewed by the New England Journal of Medicine afterall), but on the other hand the tone of the article was very inflammatory and at times heavily relied on anecdotical evidence, which isn't worth a damn and shows bias.



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Egann said:

My mother is actually part of a lawsuit against a drug company. They gave her an osteoperosis drug which was known to cause necrosis of the jaw. Of course, they didn't tell her.

She also was almost given Alzheimers by her statin drugs.

This is terrible news. Not only do doctors receive money from the drug companies for prescribing their drugs, but they're now immune to legal action? This is terrible. It's a fantastic example of our government obeying the lobbyists and doing the thing least in our interest.


Creators of generic drugs are immune to prosecution from having misleading labels/dangerous drugs.  This is because federal law forced generic drug companies to have misleading labels/dangerous drugs.

For the ruling to have went the other way, it would of been like if the federal government passed a law that while driving you must hit any pedestrian you see in a plaid shirt.   Then you got sued by people in plaid shirts.

You can't sue people for conditions they are forced to do via the law.

 

It sucks... but really based on the federal law meant to keep people safer by taking generic drugs, a small minority of people lose out.



Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Not that it's not newsworthy, but sites like the one you linked are exactly why libertarians have a hard time gaining ground in mainstream American political discourse.

Pretty much.  It's a pretty funny case since it was a 5-4 vote where the conservatives won out, despite it being  a federalist vs states rights case.  The Conservatives were the federalists in this case, and the librerals the states right advocates.

 

Essentially the whole thing boils down to one simple thing.


State law requires that drug manufacturers post updated information about new sideffects in a timely matter and aren't unduly dangerous

Federal law requires that generic drug manufacturers must directly copy name brand warning labels, and their drugs must use the same kind of formula as the name brand drugs.

 

The company in this case could not update information on side effects in a timely matter because the federal law required them to directly copy the non-generic warning label.  Nor could they make the drug safer because they were forced to use the more unsafe namebrand version.

 

Due to Federal Primacy the state law is invalidated for all generic drugs.  (Aka 80%).


It's the correct ruling... and just another case of showing how the correct ruling isn't always the "best" one for the people.    People shouldn't be attacking the supreme court but instead pushing congress to ammend the federal law so that further state protections can function as intended.

 

Perhaps a happy middleground would of been to let generic users sue name brand companies for unsafe drug formulas if the results would of been the same on their drug.


Seems like this is the correct understanding. State Law vs. Federal Law can cause all sorts of stupid shit to happen and these factors behind this case are the result. Fix the laws and this kinda stupid stuff wont happen as much.



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