Bofferbrauer2 said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Overall my thoughts on the products: 5800X3D: If you want the best bang for buck gaming performance and do not want to wait, it is certainly the one to get with a cheap X570 + DDR4 while trading blows with both Ryzen 7000 and Raptor Lake in certain games. The biggest issue is of course, you won't get any more CPU upgrades. Raptor Lake: Both the i5 and i7s are pretty much the best all around CPUs. For gaming, they should perform similarly if not beat Ryzen 7600x and 7700x but for multi-threaded tasks, they will likely rolfstomp them with the 8 extra e-cores. Pair that up with Z690 motherboards that are on sale or DDR4 boards, you will most likely end up with cheaper yet more powerful setups compared to Ryzen 7000 equivalents. The 13900k as usual isn't as good of a value as it's lower tier CPUs but the pricing is still similar to 7900x so the 13900k should still be a multi-core champ only potentially losing to the 7950x. The biggest issue is of course, you won't get any more CPU upgrades. Ryzen 7000: The only real reason to get it outside of the 7950x is the promise of platform longevity but I do think the price of entry is a bit too high. It is being flanked by both it's previous gen 5800X3D and Raptor Lake which will give you better bang for buck until you get to the 7950x range. And while you will save on not needing to upgrade to a new motherboard in the future, it does feel like AMD is really gouging you for that privileged. This isn't like Ryzen 1000 where you had cheap AM4 motherboards with the promise of 4+ years of updates paired with CPUs that had double the cores of the competition for the same price. The competition now has double the cores (all be it mix of P cores and slower E cores) for the same price along with cheaper motherboards and RAM instead. So imo, better to wait until the X3D versions where motherboards and RAM prices will get cheaper before taking the plunge. That way, you can get a meaningful upgrade in gaming performance in every game instead of going into scenarios where a 5800X3D is beating your shiny and expensive new build. |
My biggest fear with Raptor Lake is the power draw. Intel said it's more efficient - but they claimed that also both for Rocket Lake and Alder Lake, so I'll take that with a truckload of salt. I wait for reviews to see if RL would be worth it for me or not. |
Well Raptor Lake will certainly draw more power one way or another. It has 8 more cores that can boost up to 4.3ghz on 10nm. While they are small cores, they are still cores none the less so I suspect it will be a lot more than Ryzen. Based on what I have seen, I think Ryzen may be better suited for you mainly because you do like that longevity of the platform and power efficiency. I think if you wait a little while, you may see Ryzen 7000 CPUs get discounted sooner than what happened last time and at that point, my criticisms against them will be mitigated.
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