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At least CPUs aren't overpriced and the price is "fair" given how long they've been in the market and the competition. Yes, the next ones are around the corner and will be better, but you won't feel so cheated as with GPUs.

But well, imho, the only safe components to buy right now are RAM, storage (PCIe 5.0 drives will be ridiculously expensive once they launch) and PSU & case, tho to get the right power supply you need to know what hardware you'll get in the future, especially if you're going high end.



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Marth said:
Captain_Yuri said:

I think that applies to PCs in general tbh. With Zen 4 and Raptor Lake on the horizon, buying CPUs right now feels like a bad time as well since they get massively discounted when the next gen comes out. The only component you could get is a power supply cause those prices may increase when Zen 4/RaptorLake/Lovelace/RDNA3 releases since they are all going up in wattage. You can easily find a 850 Watt PSU from Evga that's fully modular for $90.

Personally I'd get 1000 watt and be done with it cause it's not like your PSU will be using 1000 watt unless it's needed.

Well for Zen4 you would also have to switch socket if you plan to upgrade instead of building a new system.

At least Alder Lake useres can easily switch to Raptor Lake.

Yea but if you wanted to go with Zen 3, you would also see even deeper discounts. Especially with CPUs like 5800X3D that hasn't seen much of a discount yet if you are going for a strictly gaming build. Or you can invest into Zen 4/AM5 if you want that future upgradability along with the benefits of AM5.

JEMC said:

At least CPUs aren't overpriced and the price is "fair" given how long they've been in the market and the competition. Yes, the next ones are around the corner and will be better, but you won't feel so cheated as with GPUs.

But well, imho, the only safe components to buy right now are RAM, storage (PCIe 5.0 drives will be ridiculously expensive once they launch) and PSU & case, tho to get the right power supply you need to know what hardware you'll get in the future, especially if you're going high end.

Well I think you can have a pretty good idea as to the power requirements that you will be facing. Getting the highest wattage power supply you can get is never a bad thing, especially while many of them are on sale right now. But when Ampere/RDNA 2 launched and many people were upgrading, PSUs were also going up in price because many were replacing their existing PSUs. So I think at least for that, if you can find a good deal, you can get ahead of the curve.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Another CyberPower UPS Goes Up in Smoke, Reader Reports

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpower-ups-smoke-reports-continue

Certainly very worry some when the UPS of all things goes up in smoke. I'd Skip CyberPower for now if you are looking into UPS purchase.

AMD Navi 33 “RDNA 3” GPUs Allegedly Featured Within Mid-Range Radeon RX 7600 XT Graphics Card Around $400 US, Faster Than RX 6900 XT

https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-33-rdna-3-gpu-featured-in-mid-range-radeon-rx-7600-xt-graphics-card-around-400-us-faster-than-rx-6900-xt/

Take it with huge amounts of salt. At 1080p, it may be faster than 6900XT but as you go up the resolution, the 128 bit memory bus will limit it heavily.

HDD Shipments Plummet 33% YoY on Weakening Demand

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/w0fmmi/hdd_shipments_plummet_33_yoy_on_weakening_demand/



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

Captain_Yuri said:
JEMC said:

At least CPUs aren't overpriced and the price is "fair" given how long they've been in the market and the competition. Yes, the next ones are around the corner and will be better, but you won't feel so cheated as with GPUs.

But well, imho, the only safe components to buy right now are RAM, storage (PCIe 5.0 drives will be ridiculously expensive once they launch) and PSU & case, tho to get the right power supply you need to know what hardware you'll get in the future, especially if you're going high end.

Well I think you can have a pretty good idea as to the power requirements that you will be facing. Getting the highest wattage power supply you can get is never a bad thing, especially while many of them are on sale right now. But when Ampere/RDNA 2 launched and many people were upgrading, PSUs were also going up in price because many were replacing their existing PSUs. So I think at least for that, if you can find a good deal, you can get ahead of the curve.

We don't know for sure how much power will the new cards use and, with the problem regarding transients and those power spikes, a 800-850W PSU that could be seem enough now may not be enough and require a 1000W unit instead.

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Navi 33 “RDNA 3” GPUs Allegedly Featured Within Mid-Range Radeon RX 7600 XT Graphics Card Around $400 US, Faster Than RX 6900 XT

https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-33-rdna-3-gpu-featured-in-mid-range-radeon-rx-7600-xt-graphics-card-around-400-us-faster-than-rx-6900-xt/

Take it with huge amounts of salt. At 1080p, it may be faster than 6900XT but as you go up the resolution, the 128 bit memory bus will limit it heavily.

Keep in mind that the 7600 series should be aimed primarly to 1080, maybe 1440p tops. That 128 bit bus shouldn't be that much of a trouble.

Besides, the last rumor said that Navi 31 would feature a 384-nit bus, higher than expected. Maybe that increase will scale down to the other chips, with Navi 32 featuring a 256-bit bus and the Navi 33 a 192-bit bus. For example.



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JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Well I think you can have a pretty good idea as to the power requirements that you will be facing. Getting the highest wattage power supply you can get is never a bad thing, especially while many of them are on sale right now. But when Ampere/RDNA 2 launched and many people were upgrading, PSUs were also going up in price because many were replacing their existing PSUs. So I think at least for that, if you can find a good deal, you can get ahead of the curve.

We don't know for sure how much power will the new cards use and, with the problem regarding transients and those power spikes, a 800-850W PSU that could be seem enough now may not be enough and require a 1000W unit instead.

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Navi 33 “RDNA 3” GPUs Allegedly Featured Within Mid-Range Radeon RX 7600 XT Graphics Card Around $400 US, Faster Than RX 6900 XT

https://wccftech.com/amd-navi-33-rdna-3-gpu-featured-in-mid-range-radeon-rx-7600-xt-graphics-card-around-400-us-faster-than-rx-6900-xt/

Take it with huge amounts of salt. At 1080p, it may be faster than 6900XT but as you go up the resolution, the 128 bit memory bus will limit it heavily.

Keep in mind that the 7600 series should be aimed primarly to 1080, maybe 1440p tops. That 128 bit bus shouldn't be that much of a trouble.

Besides, the last rumor said that Navi 31 would feature a 384-nit bus, higher than expected. Maybe that increase will scale down to the other chips, with Navi 32 featuring a 256-bit bus and the Navi 33 a 192-bit bus. For example.

Yea that's true but the point I was getting at is that right now, you can find 1000 watt Evga G6 fully modular power supply for $133 vs 850 watts go around $90. So you can realistically get that 1000 watt without having to spend too much more while these PSUs are on sale because we are in that phase of most people not upgrading. But when the next gen CPUs and GPUs launch with all the updated power requirements for both, you may have a harder time finding a good deal because of a ton of people trying to upgrade.



                  

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Exclusive: Intel Arc A-Series Desktop GPU Price/Performance Positioning, TDP and Memory Configurations

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-intel-arc-a-series-desktop-gpu-price-performance-positioning-tdp-and-memory-configurations/

Let me get this straight

TSMC's 6nm on Arc vs Samsungs 8nm on Nvidia
225 Watt TDP on Arc A770 vs 200 Watts on 3060 Ti

Yet A770 is slower??? While using more Wattage? On a much more advanced node???

Imagine now much wattage a 3080 competitor would be jebus...



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

We don't know how much power the memory uses. The 770 has twice as much VRAM as the 3060Ti or the 6650XT.



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I don't think memory is the problem. 3060 has 12GB of Vram while A750 has 8GB even though A750 uses 225 Watts while 3060 is 170 watts.



                  

PC Specs: CPU: 7800X3D || GPU: Strix 4090 || RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 || Main SSD: WD 2TB SN850

I also noticed the difference between the 3060 and 750, but it's still something that I would like to know.

Also, the 770 and 750 are listed with the same 225W figure despite the extra memory and that one uses a cut down versin while the other uses the full chip (and maybe higher clocks?). It's weird.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

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JEMC said:

Anyone buying a GPU now is either uninformed, forced to do so (their GPU has broken and need to be replaced now) or has found an excellent deal. That's it.

Yeah only people who are buying a whole new system and can't afford to wait a few more months are buying them and the odd outlier, that aren't clued in. Expected more from Jayz2cents, really horrible advice tbh.

On another note.. can't believe I missed HWU's review for the Samsung Oddessy Neo G7.

Finally a decent 4K HDR monitor at a reasonable size. Going to wait for a price drop and a new GPU before getting one.