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Trumpstyle on 14 August 2020

Gddr6x confirmed, this is good news for AMD :). I think they will win in Perf/W and Perf/mm2 but the performance king will be close, most likely slight lead to Nvidia as they are pushing 350W.

Baidu leak problably false, the two top cards from nvidia should have 384-bit and 320-bit bus. The leaked card had 384-bit and not 352-bit.
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-features-twelve-gddr6x-memory-modules



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Chazore on 14 August 2020
hinch said:

This is why I've given up on high-end GPU's. I spent £310 on my Gigabtyte G1 Gaming GTX 1070 a few years ago. And can still get up to £200 back on ebay today. So the upgrade to Ampere will be pretty good all considering. I just go for the one with best performance and bang for buck which is usually the X700 series.

Nvidia just keeps upping the prices and moving the line down. I really want AMD and even Intel (wishful thinking) to bring in a rain check on higher end GPU prices. Given how much RAM these cards have and cooling its gonna be pricey indeed.

I'm not gonna give up just yet, but I am getting fed up of AMD not bothering to cater much towards the high end spectrum. People give AMD it's dues and kudos in it's CPU space, but it's GPU side leaves a lot to be desired, high end wise. 



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Pemalite on 14 August 2020

Yeah. I also avoid buying high-end GPU's. Cost is just stupid at this point...
A single high-end GPU today is equivalent to buying 4x high-end GPU's from 10 years ago and whacking them into crossfire... Even accounting for inflation. $2,400 AUD is a ton of coin nVidia. A ton.

Normally I would have jumped on something like the Radeon RX 5700XT as the US price was $399 on launch which should have been $570 AUD (without tax). - Instead we had the GPU's at about $850 AUD or more...

I am happy just spending $500 AUD every few years and getting the best GPU for that coin, don't give a crap about the brand (I.E. AMD vs nVidia).
In saying that, I am only gaming at 1440P+144hz these days anyway and not chasing 5760x1080 or 7680x1440 where I could justify 4x GPU's at the time, so keeping a GPU for a year or two longer is fine until there is more of a tangible upgrade.

I think we need some much needed competition in the GPU space, AMD needs to pick up it's game and Intel needs to make it's big GPU entrance in a big way to disrupt the entire market, nVidia is far to comfortable at this point... And unlike Intel, nVidia has been constantly improving every year, so there hasn't been the opportunity for AMD to pull an Athlon 64 or Ryzen.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 14 August 2020

This game is gonna be the first true taste of next gen



                  

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vivster on 15 August 2020
JEMC said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Speaking of pricing rumours...

[RUMOR] Mod from Baidu forums posted this.

He's saying:

- RTX 3080 at least 40% faster than RTX 2080 Ti
- RTX 3080 priced close to RTX 2080 Ti
- RTX 3090 around 12-14K Yuan or around $2000 US
- GA104 GPUs will be priced similar to TU104 GPUs

Also posted about 22 GB 352-bit bus



Yikes if true. But also note that Micron so far has no indication of 22GB of vram so if the rumour is true, it could be that there are multiple versions with different amounts of Vram.

There's no f*cking way the 3080 costs as much as the 2080Ti because that would destroy the market.

How much would the 3070 and 3060 cost, then? Will they keep the same mindset and price the 3060 like the 2070 Super, leaving the whole mid-to-low market for AMD? Or will they be priced reasonably, but leave an enormous price gap between the 3070 and the 3080?

Nope, I refuse to believe such nonsense.

You're focusing too much on the names of the cards. Just because they're named the same gen after gen doesn't mean they need to service the same power or price bracket. If a 2080 is indeed 40% faster than a 2080ti costing as much as it seems logical because that's about a generational leap. And if a 3070 is 40% faster than a 2080 is might as well cost as much as it. Don't think of it as Nvidia shifting prices, but them shifting model numbers. As far as we know now the 3080ti might not even exist and the 3090 is a new special kind of prosumer card.



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JEMC on 15 August 2020
vivster said:
JEMC said:

There's no f*cking way the 3080 costs as much as the 2080Ti because that would destroy the market.

How much would the 3070 and 3060 cost, then? Will they keep the same mindset and price the 3060 like the 2070 Super, leaving the whole mid-to-low market for AMD? Or will they be priced reasonably, but leave an enormous price gap between the 3070 and the 3080?

Nope, I refuse to believe such nonsense.

You're focusing too much on the names of the cards. Just because they're named the same gen after gen doesn't mean they need to service the same power or price bracket. If a 2080 is indeed 40% faster than a 2080ti costing as much as it seems logical because that's about a generational leap. And if a 3070 is 40% faster than a 2080 is might as well cost as much as it. Don't think of it as Nvidia shifting prices, but them shifting model numbers. As far as we know now the 3080ti might not even exist and the 3090 is a new special kind of prosumer card.

But they're replacing those cards and therefore need to remain in the same ballpark.

If you're replacing a 600€ card, the most logical thing is to do it with a new product that remain close to that price point, not with one that costs twice as much, because in that case you're not replacing one product with another, your cancelling one product line for another.



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Pemalite on 15 August 2020
JEMC said:
vivster said:

You're focusing too much on the names of the cards. Just because they're named the same gen after gen doesn't mean they need to service the same power or price bracket. If a 2080 is indeed 40% faster than a 2080ti costing as much as it seems logical because that's about a generational leap. And if a 3070 is 40% faster than a 2080 is might as well cost as much as it. Don't think of it as Nvidia shifting prices, but them shifting model numbers. As far as we know now the 3080ti might not even exist and the 3090 is a new special kind of prosumer card.

But they're replacing those cards and therefore need to remain in the same ballpark.

If you're replacing a 600€ card, the most logical thing is to do it with a new product that remain close to that price point, not with one that costs twice as much, because in that case you're not replacing one product with another, your cancelling one product line for another.

You are also not getting more performance per dollar.

If you go from spending $600 to $1200 on a GPU (I.E. 100% increase in price), but performance only increases by 50%, then AMD/nVidia is charging you more per fps gained, it's poor value and not beneficial to the consumer.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 15 August 2020

ARM May Be Acquired by NVIDIA (NASDAQ: NVDA) Before the End of This Summer

https://wccftech.com/arm-may-be-acquired-by-nvidia-nasdaq-nvda-before-the-end-of-this-summer/

AMD’s Entry-Level A520 Motherboards Launching on 18th August – ASUS & ASRock Boards Listed & Leaked Online

https://wccftech.com/amds-entry-level-a520-motherboards-launching-on-18th-august/

Leaker outlines possible ARM transition roadmap for Apple; ARM MacBook Pro 16 to arrive in 2021

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leaker-outlines-possible-ARM-transition-roadmap-for-Apple-ARM-MacBook-Pro-16-to-arrive-in-2021.486586.0.html



                  

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vivster on 15 August 2020
JEMC said:
vivster said:

You're focusing too much on the names of the cards. Just because they're named the same gen after gen doesn't mean they need to service the same power or price bracket. If a 2080 is indeed 40% faster than a 2080ti costing as much as it seems logical because that's about a generational leap. And if a 3070 is 40% faster than a 2080 is might as well cost as much as it. Don't think of it as Nvidia shifting prices, but them shifting model numbers. As far as we know now the 3080ti might not even exist and the 3090 is a new special kind of prosumer card.

But they're replacing those cards and therefore need to remain in the same ballpark.

If you're replacing a 600€ card, the most logical thing is to do it with a new product that remain close to that price point, not with one that costs twice as much, because in that case you're not replacing one product with another, your cancelling one product line for another.

Who says they're not doing that? Product names mean absolute shit. Important is what kind of performance you get and not what arbitrary number is on the package.



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