I still havnt gotten to play Titanfall since the beta....Im doing Pc gaming wrong?
| KingKazuma34 said: I still havnt gotten to play Titanfall since the beta....Im doing Pc gaming wrong? |
I've never played Titanfall, PC gaming is about doing it your way.
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You would be better off getting after market blocks, then throwing it into a loop with the CPU. |
*late response, I know*
But with a proper water cooling setup, you need far more space for the pump and reservoir, the extra tubing ... and let's be honest, those who will go for this card are the ones that have the money, but not necesarily the knowledge to set up a WC loop or they simply are too afraid of a leak.
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I'm lost when it comes to the specs of the GPUs, but I find those specs a bit odd.
Less ROPs and memory bandwidth than even a GTX780? And less texture engines(?) than any ofthe cards of that table?
Please excuse my bad English.
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| JEMC said: I'm lost when it comes to the specs of the GPUs, but I find those specs a bit odd. Less ROPs and memory bandwidth than even a GTX780? And less texture engines(?) than any ofthe cards of that table? |
Maxwell is a new architecture, it has been tuned for efficiency, real world performance should be a lot better than the paper specs would have you think. Details can be read here but the cliff notes version
First and possibly most important is that they have increased the amount of L2 cache by 8X (from 256KB to 2MB on the GTX 750 compared to the 650) which reduces the amount of memory bandwidth that the card needs.
They have also taken steps to improve the IPC of each core with improvements to scheduling etc that they claim offers 35% increase in performance per CUDA Core. Also they have split the GPU into smaller groups that allows them to work more independantly and allowing them to further improve effeciency by reducing the amount of Synchronization required and increasing the number of special function units.
For an example of how this works out in practive lets look at the existing Maxwell chip that is out now. compare the specs of the
750 Ti
CUDA Cores 640
Texture Units 40
ROPs 16
Core Clock 1020MHz
Memory Clock 5.4GHz GDDR5
Memory Bus Width 128-bit
TDP 60W
Transistor Count 1.87B
GFlops 1306
And
650 Ti
CUDA Cores 768
Texture Units 64
ROPs 16
Core Clock 925MHz
Memory Clock 5.4GHz GDDR5
Memory Bus Width 128-bit
TDP 110W
Transistor Count 2.54B
GFlops 1420
Now on paper it looks like the 650 Ti should out perform the 750 Ti, I mean it has more texture units, more CUDA Cores, more transistors and the same memory bandwidth. However if we compare benchmarks between the two cards
We see that the 750 Ti actually outperforms the 650 by a comfortable margin and using just over half the power to do it on the same 28nm node. Considering that the 880 GTX has more Cuda cores and a higher clock rate than the 780 Ti it should outperform it by an even wider margin in most cases. Now there may be some cases where the 880 may be a little less impressive due to having less ROPs and lower bandwidth such as very high resolutions+AA but we will have to wait and see how that works out. I just hope that price isn't accurate, I was hopeing that Maxwell would push performance per $ up a lot more than that, seems like the price inflation of GPUs will continue (stupid crypto currency driving up AMD's prices removing the price pressure from Nvidia).
Specs do seem pretty dissapointing if the leak is accurate on price.
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zarx said:
We see that the 750 Ti actually outperforms the 650 by a comfortable margin and using just over half the power to do it on the same 28nm node. Considering that the 880 GTX has more Cuda cores and a higher clock rate than the 780 Ti it should outperform it by an even wider margin in most cases. Now there may be some cases where the 880 may be a little less impressive due to having less ROPs and lower bandwidth such as very high resolutions+AA but we will have to wait and see how that works out. I just hope that price isn't accurate, I was hopeing that Maxwell would push performance per $ up a lot more than that, seems like the price inflation of GPUs will continue (stupid crypto currency driving up AMD's prices removing the price pressure from Nvidia). Specs do seem pretty dissapointing if the leak is accurate on price. |
Thanks for the explanation, I always have this problem every time they come with a new architecture 
But I see a problem that you mention, if that may have a negative impact on high resolutions. Let's be honest here, the market for those cards are multi-montor users and/or owners of monitors with extremely high res. like 4K or the new 21:9 from LG and Dell (3440x1440 on 34"). So if those cards are worse than a 780Ti/Titan, then what's the point of those high end cards?
But of course Nvidia is smart enough to not make this silly mistake.
As for the price... you know. Nvidia + high end + new node = absurd prices. And that won't change unless people start to use the common sense. So it won't change 
Please excuse my bad English.
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| JEMC said: Thanks for the explanation, I always have this problem every time they come with a new architecture But I see a problem that you mention, if that may have a negative impact on high resolutions. Let's be honest here, the market for those cards are multi-montor users and/or owners of monitors with extremely high res. like 4K or the new 21:9 from LG and Dell (3440x1440 on 34"). So if those cards are worse than a 780Ti/Titan, then what's the point of those high end cards? But of course Nvidia is smart enough to not make this silly mistake. As for the price... you know. Nvidia + high end + new node = absurd prices. And that won't change unless people start to use the common sense. So it won't change |
Well we don't really know how much of an impact the increased cache and memory management will have, it is quite possible that the bandwidth won't actually cause too much of a bottleneck and the card will be able to brute force it. But no it's not looking like a good upgrade path for someone who already has a 780+, tho IMO it's alwayse better to skip at least one revision if you want marked improvements. And of course i am sure Nvidia will have a nice big Titan X at double the price with a 512-bit bus or some such nonsense for those who want it a few months later.
I was hoping that given the focus on effeciency Nvida would do another Kepler launch where the 680 used less power, performed better and launched at the same price as the 580. However it seems like they have bumped up the price and are pricing it against the 780 Ti instead of the 780. Which will probably mean the lower tier cards will follow suite, meaning the 870 will no doubt be pushed way out of my price range.
On an unrelated note
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| zarx said: I was hoping that given the focus on effeciency Nvida would do another Kepler launch where the 680 used less power, performed better and launched at the same price as the 580. However it seems like they have bumped up the price and are pricing it against the 780 Ti instead of the 780. Which will probably mean the lower tier cards will follow suite, meaning the 870 will no doubt be pushed way out of my price range. |
Yeah, I was too hoping that power would go down aswell, but given the nº of transistors it will have (according to that rumor, let's not forget that), I see why it is what it is. After all, and using the numbers from the Anandtech's review, the 680 had 3.5B transistors and was rated at 195W, compared to the 3B transistors and 244W of the 580, but that 880 will have 7.9B! That's more than twice.
Given that it has more transistors, it is clocked higher and has more memory that also runs faster than a 780Ti, it is impressive that it uses 20W less power.
As for the 870... well maybe we (I need an upgrade too) will be able to grab a 780/780Ti for cheap as everybody will jump to the newer cards. That or go AMD...
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