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RolStoppable said:

Alright, here's the story of two masons who don't completely trust each other. We decided to make this known, because IF this game goes into Day 5, one of us dies on Night 4 AND the other one is scum, then a mafia win would be pretty much guaranteed as neither mario or radish would have a reason to distrust the remaining mason, thus a mislynch on Day 5 would be a lock.

I am a mason recruiter with the drawback that I wouldn't know the alignment of my recruit. A nerfed investigative role so to say, because I could be manipulated by a scum mason. I picked FF because of his traditionally low activity. His first reaction was to wonder about my alignment, but based on the information that was given to him with the invitation, he concluded that I have to be town. Soon afterwards mario's death triggered our memories and we were confirmed to each other as town. So far, so good. But at the end of Day 2 the Genesis Engine was used which changed the alignment of one player in this game. This is the sole reason why there isn't 100% trust between the two of us.

FF is an amnesiac cop which means that he doesn't receive the results of his investigations, but an unknown someone else does. He was leading into this claim with his opening post (when he wondered about my alignment), so it would be a very well executed fakeclaim, if he was lying. The problem is that we have yet to find the person who receives the cop results which calls FF's roleclaim into question. The Mafia wiki says that even a scum player could be the receiver, although that may only be the case in games with at least three factions. Maybe happyD was the receiver. Maybe somebody's item can be used to recover the results. Or maybe FF was lying after all.

What plays into my suspicion of FF is that he didn't want to talk to me during Night 3 and when he finally said something, it was that he chose to investigate me. Due to a lack of proper timestamps on VGC I can't say for sure if this post came before or after Day 4 had started. If it came afterwards, FF could have tried to cover up his decision to kill me (which failed because of radish) by claiming an investigation. So in case that astro tracked him to my place, it wouldn't be something that comes as a complete surprise. On the same note, it has to be acknowledged that benao's claim of roleblocking me and no kill taking place could be taken as an indication that I am scum.

@mario and radish: As you can see, things are a bit more difficult than they seemed earlier toDay. I'd rather lynch one between astro and benao toDay, because I am still inclined to trust FF despite the lack of a receiver for the cop results.

@FF: Confirm what I have said here. Correct me, if there is something wrong. Add what I have forgotten.

I don't see any mistakes.  I'll try to think of anything you might have left out.  Something that I should give my perspective on is that I don't actually recall whether I told you that I'd investigated you before or after Night was over.  But based on my post at the beginning of the Day I am quite confident that I told you before astro revealed that he had tracked you. 



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Oh, one slight inaccuracy: I concluded you were NOT mafia, but still wondered if you might be third party at first, but of course that was disconfirmed later.



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RolStoppable said:
benao87 said:
Well, as rol didn't kill anybody, he wouldn't have activated astro's ability, thus his statement is plausible. But he not being a watcher, does not allow us to know who did visited him triggering radish protection.

There should be only one more mafia left, hopefully for us, which would grant us 1 day with mislynch and it's night kill.

I know I'm town, thus my attention turns to astro and FF. Mainly astro, as my bulletproof protection didn't include poisoning.

What were your other options for the money?

My roleblock ability was limited, if I didn't posted 10 times in a day it would be random, that was why I had a problem with the mod, when he confirmed me a block, and then taking it away.

I could take off the restriction, or the bulletproof for one night. As the restriction could be managed, bulletproof seemed to be like a better option.



RolStoppable said:
benao87 said:

My roleblock ability was limited, if I didn't posted 10 times in a day it would be random, that was why I had a problem with the mod, when he confirmed me a block, and then taking it away.

I could take off the restriction, or the bulletproof for one night. As the restriction could be managed, bulletproof seemed to be like a better option.

I counted 7 posts of you on Day 3.

I thought I had more, and mod didn't state that my block was randomnized, then as far as I know, I still blocked you. Then again, more than blocking you I wanted to leave astro and radish abilities intact.



It wouldn't be the first time scum voted contrary to their best interest.



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Should I survive the day, I can follow rol's plan.



Vote: Astro

It makes sense to me



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Well, I did nothing last night and don't have the knife. Sort of odd that the last mafia cannot kill. Or maybe someone prevented the kill last night.




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I blocked FF, and I don't have the knife.