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All I've really gathered from this is that the PS4 is superior to the XBOX One in all aspects from the hardware standpoint, but then again we already knew this.



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Modern gpu are highly parrallel (and predictive)

In practical case you ll always get better result with higher bandwidth than tighter timing in games. APU benchmark which only depend on the main PC memory, always showing the same story, bandwidth win, all the time even for cpu tasks (!))

All high end gpu use GDDR5, no one came up with a 500$ PC gpu stuffed with DDR3 bragging about how efficient it is cause of DDR3 latency. That whole thing is the worst "damage control" ever heard.



Chark said:
What I read:

X1 doesn't need better memory because its not powerful enough to utilize said memory.


It's an apologetics filled OP, that's for sure.

But yes, that's what he says.



Mvp4eVa said:

First off the AMD HD 7770 is a low end card and the HD 7790 is an overclocked version of the HD 7770 however they both come stock with GDDR5 ram as standard..

-The Xbone has the equivalent of an HD 7770, is a slower gpu in comparison with GDDR5 memory but Microsoft decided to make a slow gpu in comparison slower with DDR3.

DDR3 its old and slow for todays GPU standards, its not even close to the speed of GDDR3 either..

DDR3 is great and fast for system memory, operation system, multitasking and whatnot, but not up to standard for GPU intensive graphics at higher resolutions at a higher settings,, it would be much harder for the DDR3 memory to render stuff fast while trying to keep those frames per second above 30 at 1080p without pop-ins and less likely to achieve 60 without cutting corner (lower settings) and sub 720p to make that game look good and playable.

Doesn't matter how people would try to spin it, the nature of this, DDR3 clock per clock, bandwidth speed per speed, DDR3 is years behind GDDR5 design architecture.. as far back as gpus with DDR3 from 2006 - 2008.

For example: 2gb GDDR5 clocked @ 800mhz vs 2gb DDR3 clocked @ 1200mhz, guess who's faster? clock speed don't matter. the architecture of these memory type is like night and day.

The PS4 has the equivalent of an HD 7870 with GDDR5 memory, its a mid range card and a great performer .. would not compare both as this wouldn't be fair ..

The card alone on the PS4.. graphics card vs graphics card without the memory. The 7770, again wouldn't be fair to compare it with the 7870. it would a joke if someone tries to compare these two GPUs as they stand now ..HD 7770 ddr3 vs 7870 GDDR5.

No matter how Microsoft or anyone would try to spin it, game developers and computer programmers know that faster is better .. I guess Microsoft never had the thought of including at the least GDDR3 for their GPU, its still slower than GDDR5 but I assure you it can run circles around DDR3 memory.

And to think of Microsoft will carry the XBONE for the next 7 to 10 years .

Your whole post falls appart when you add memory bus bandwidth.

7770/7790 has 128 bit bus...X1 has 256. This + SRAM embed is why Xbox 1 GPU will beat both AMD GPUs in performance  despite using DDR3 memory.



Too many posts in here with incorrect information for me to reply to.

Information exchange on VGchartz is severely broken. People just push their console agenda and read what they want to read. I don't know why I bother to be honest...



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disolitude said:
Too many posts in here with incorrect information for me to reply to.

Information exchange on VGchartz is severely broken. People just push their console agenda and read what they want to read. I don't know why I bother to be honest...

Incorrect information? Your OP only have incorrect information lol

Even the official numbers are wrong



ethomaz said:
disolitude said:
Too many posts in here with incorrect information for me to reply to.

Information exchange on VGchartz is severely broken. People just push their console agenda and read what they want to read. I don't know why I bother to be honest...

Incorrect information? Your OP only have incorrect information lol

Even the official numbers are wrong

My OP is fine and correct, but its ok.

Looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 gif you posted below, its clear you don't undestand what I'm saying...



disolitude said:

My OP is fine and correct, but its ok.

Looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 gif you posted below, its clear you don't undestand what I'm saying...

Right... the most absurd lie in the OP just to start... please can you send me a DDR3 with 102GB/s bandwidth because I need that future tech to put in my PC lol...

How much heat this DDR3 running at 3600Mhz have? I will need to buy a new cooler system?

And I understand the OP so I posted a official example in how GDDR5 almost double the performance of low-end GPUs... I posted even chartz to you understand too.



disolitude said:

Your whole post falls appart when you add memory bus bandwidth.

7770/7790 has 128 bit bus...X1 has 256. This + SRAM embed is why Xbox 1 GPU will beat both AMD GPUs in performance  despite using DDR3 memory.


Uhm, no, not exactly - 7770 for sure, but though XOne's GPU (most likely) is based on same architecture as 7790 (which is not exactly the same as 7770), it has 128 shaders and 8 TMUs less, and it's clocked 20% lower, so I'm not so sure it can actually reach that level of performance. (same way I'm not quite so sure PS4's can reach exactly 7870 level, specially in games that are not compute heavy, thus not using all those additional compute enhancements to their fullest)



ethomaz said:

disolitude said:

My OP is fine and correct, but its ok.

Looking at the DDR3 vs GDDR5 gif you posted below, its clear you don't undestand what I'm saying...

Right... the most absurd lie in the OP just to start... please can you send me a DDR3 with 102GB/s bandwidth because I need that future tech to put in my PC lol...

How much heat this DDR3 running at 3600Mhz have? I will need to buy a new cooler system?

And I understand the OP so I posted a official example in how GDDR5 almost double the performance of low-end GPUs... I posted even chartz to you understand too.

Here you go buddy... This thread sumarized by 1 sentance. 

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4/3

"Even if Microsoft can’t deliver the same effective memory bandwidth as Sony, it also has fewer GPU execution resources - it’s entirely possible that the Xbox One’s memory bandwidth demands will be inherently lower to begin with."