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What should Nintendo do to re-launch the Wii U and regain lost momentum

Unify the console to the ... 125 64.77%
 
Keep the price as is but ... 39 20.21%
 
add more colors...that us... 5 2.59%
 
Nothing...Wii U is a good... 24 12.44%
 
Total:193
oni-link on 25 June 2013
Gamerace said:
I say ditch the gamepad (make it optional) and re-introduce it with an enhanced Wiimote-nunchuk that has enough buttons/sticks that the pro controller isn't ever needed (and maybe a small touch screen, why not?) with a proper follow-up to Wii Sports or some other novel Wii entry and a reduced price point (which ditching the gamepad will help accomplish) and I'll buy it immediately.


Ditching the gamepad is lunacy as the whole console is based on the gamepad!!! Might as well say add an extra-core to the CPU and increase the RAM (well it happened to the PSP so why not?) to 3GB or 4GB.  Nintendo just needs to add value to the console either by a price cut or more bundles. For goodness sake they need to market that console right also!!!



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sales2099 on 25 June 2013

I dunno, they have until November to turn it around. Because im afraid the Wiiu mentality will be set in stone after PS4/X1 release.



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oni-link on 25 June 2013
Cold-Flipper said:
oni-link said:

The 3DS needs a price cut?  I think not!!! The system is selling quite well so I don't see Nintendo having the need to cut the price of the system.  Nintendo, needs to generate enough profit to satisfy those grumpy analyst and shareholders.  They are releasing great games that would help the system sell without the need for a price cut.  The Wii U on the other hand is desperate for both a price cut and influx of great games.

3DS is doing pretty well all things considered but could be doing much better. 3DS is #1 every week but only manages to slightly outsell PS3 which was released in 2006. Yes, it sells well and easily kills the Vita (its main competition) but at its current rate it will likely sell worse than any previous Nintendo HH. 

The DS had 6 full years as Nintendo's HH system. Say 3DS continues to sell 14 Million or so a year. It will sell about 84 Million lifetime. It will likely do more this year but less near the end, total sales are looking to be between 70 & 80 Million. Still great but could be much more.

A price cut in Spring 2014 would be 3 years after launch and 2 1/2 after the first price cut. A small one will help a lot and the benefits will outweigh the lost $ on system profit.

I disagree with the whole "smartphones killed HH gaming" thing. Yes, smartphones sell much better but what would you expect? A dedicated HH can still sell extremely well. The 3DS price is still higher than the launch price of all previous Nintendo HH's despite the massive $80 drop. The sales have a ton of room for improvement.


The 3DS manges to outsell the PS3 2:1 every week, so that is a little better than slightly.  The DS was just a monster but it's hardware was more limiting during it's time than the 3DS is right now.  Thus, my second point is that the 3DS will last a couple of years longer than the DS did especially considering that it's main competitor is all but being shelved by the industry.  That's why Nintendo needs to act now to avoid the same fate as the Vita!!!  Sony took too long to make the Vita competitive and thus the system paid the price and headed towards obscurity.  A price cut this September would greatly change the fate of the console and give it a fighting chance at being modestly succesful. (40-50mil units sold)  A delay of doing that risks the system to going the same route as Sony's failing handheld; which is going to be much more costly to reverse it's fortunes than an early price cut!!!



Gamerace on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:
Gamerace said:
I say ditch the gamepad (make it optional) and re-introduce it with an enhanced Wiimote-nunchuk that has enough buttons/sticks that the pro controller isn't ever needed (and maybe a small touch screen, why not?) with a proper follow-up to Wii Sports or some other novel Wii entry and a reduced price point (which ditching the gamepad will help accomplish) and I'll buy it immediately.


Ditching the gamepad is lunacy as the whole console is based on the gamepad!!! Might as well say add an extra-core to the CPU and increase the RAM (well it happened to the PSP so why not?) to 3GB or 4GB.  Nintendo just needs to add value to the console either by a price cut or more bundles. For goodness sake they need to market that console right also!!!

I hear that, but I think the entire gamepad concept (after Wii) was lunacy to begin with and we are talking a relaunch here.   And sure more power would be great! Even if it meant keeping the current price.   But I maintain the gamepad is a greater hinderence to sales than it'll ever be a sales driver.  If WiiU is to ever 'catch on' the gamepad must go.    Otherwise, let me know when Wii3 arrives.



 

oni-link on 25 June 2013
sales2099 said:
I dunno, they have until November to turn it around. Because im afraid the Wiiu mentality will be set in stone after PS4/X1 release.


Exactly my point!!! Nintendo has sold ~4mil consoles according to their March 2013 fiscal report; they need to get as many systems out there before the PS4/X1 comes out or else it's game over.  A price cut this September is not just important but necessary for the survival of the console!!!



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oni-link on 25 June 2013
Gamerace said:
oni-link said:
Gamerace said:
I say ditch the gamepad (make it optional) and re-introduce it with an enhanced Wiimote-nunchuk that has enough buttons/sticks that the pro controller isn't ever needed (and maybe a small touch screen, why not?) with a proper follow-up to Wii Sports or some other novel Wii entry and a reduced price point (which ditching the gamepad will help accomplish) and I'll buy it immediately.


Ditching the gamepad is lunacy as the whole console is based on the gamepad!!! Might as well say add an extra-core to the CPU and increase the RAM (well it happened to the PSP so why not?) to 3GB or 4GB.  Nintendo just needs to add value to the console either by a price cut or more bundles. For goodness sake they need to market that console right also!!!

I hear that, but I think the entire gamepad concept (after Wii) was lunacy to begin with and we are talking a relaunch here.   And sure more power would be great! Even if it meant keeping the current price.   But I maintain the gamepad is a greater hinderence to sales than it'll ever be a sales driver.  If WiiU is to ever 'catch on' the gamepad must go.    Otherwise, let me know when Wii3 arrives.

It's Nintendo's fault for not marketing the console properly instead of the gamepad concept.  If you have the system you will realize how well the Gamepad works with the whole console.  It's hard to go back to my X360's UI after the gamepad tbh.  Ditching the gamepad would be akin to people saying the 3DS should just ditch the 3D aspect of the 3DS (which would make the name 3DS moot to begin with...lunacy I say).  TO THIS DAY I have people going to Best Buy and Costco asking if they could pick up the gamepad for their regular Wii as Nintendo's stupid ass marketing team didn't differientiate the console from the Wii well enough.



zorg1000 on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:
Cold-Flipper said:
oni-link said:

The 3DS needs a price cut?  I think not!!! The system is selling quite well so I don't see Nintendo having the need to cut the price of the system.  Nintendo, needs to generate enough profit to satisfy those grumpy analyst and shareholders.  They are releasing great games that would help the system sell without the need for a price cut.  The Wii U on the other hand is desperate for both a price cut and influx of great games.

3DS is doing pretty well all things considered but could be doing much better. 3DS is #1 every week but only manages to slightly outsell PS3 which was released in 2006. Yes, it sells well and easily kills the Vita (its main competition) but at its current rate it will likely sell worse than any previous Nintendo HH. 

The DS had 6 full years as Nintendo's HH system. Say 3DS continues to sell 14 Million or so a year. It will sell about 84 Million lifetime. It will likely do more this year but less near the end, total sales are looking to be between 70 & 80 Million. Still great but could be much more.

A price cut in Spring 2014 would be 3 years after launch and 2 1/2 after the first price cut. A small one will help a lot and the benefits will outweigh the lost $ on system profit.

I disagree with the whole "smartphones killed HH gaming" thing. Yes, smartphones sell much better but what would you expect? A dedicated HH can still sell extremely well. The 3DS price is still higher than the launch price of all previous Nintendo HH's despite the massive $80 drop. The sales have a ton of room for improvement.


The 3DS manges to outsell the PS3 2:1 every week, so that is a little better than slightly.  The DS was just a monster but it's hardware was more limiting during it's time than the 3DS is right now.  Thus, my second point is that the 3DS will last a couple of years longer than the DS did especially considering that it's main competitor is all but being shelved by the industry.  That's why Nintendo needs to act now to avoid the same fate as the Vita!!!  Sony took too long to make the Vita competitive and thus the system paid the price and headed towards obscurity.  A price cut this September would greatly change the fate of the console and give it a fighting chance at being modestly succesful. (40-50mil units sold)  A delay of doing that risks the system to going the same route as Sony's failing handheld; which is going to be much more costly to reverse it's fortunes than an early price cut!!!

Not sure where ur getting ut numbers from, 3DS is sellin just slightly more than PS3 on a weekly basis, even looking at this year so far PS3 is at 4.0 million and 3DS is at 4.2 million.



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the2real4mafol on 25 June 2013
oni-link said:
echoesfromthepast said:
No - Nintendo just needs to buy more studios and make more games under their quality control umbrella


Buying studios is somewhat moot, when developers could jump ship and move to diffrent companies.   Developing new IPs or buying old one for dirt cheap and developing them in-house is a better option.  I say Bonk is a ripe to be sold to Nintendo seeing Konami doesn't make games anymore except for MGS.

PES?



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oni-link on 25 June 2013
zorg1000 said:
oni-link said:
Cold-Flipper said:
oni-link said:

The 3DS needs a price cut?  I think not!!! The system is selling quite well so I don't see Nintendo having the need to cut the price of the system.  Nintendo, needs to generate enough profit to satisfy those grumpy analyst and shareholders.  They are releasing great games that would help the system sell without the need for a price cut.  The Wii U on the other hand is desperate for both a price cut and influx of great games.

3DS is doing pretty well all things considered but could be doing much better. 3DS is #1 every week but only manages to slightly outsell PS3 which was released in 2006. Yes, it sells well and easily kills the Vita (its main competition) but at its current rate it will likely sell worse than any previous Nintendo HH. 

The DS had 6 full years as Nintendo's HH system. Say 3DS continues to sell 14 Million or so a year. It will sell about 84 Million lifetime. It will likely do more this year but less near the end, total sales are looking to be between 70 & 80 Million. Still great but could be much more.

A price cut in Spring 2014 would be 3 years after launch and 2 1/2 after the first price cut. A small one will help a lot and the benefits will outweigh the lost $ on system profit.

I disagree with the whole "smartphones killed HH gaming" thing. Yes, smartphones sell much better but what would you expect? A dedicated HH can still sell extremely well. The 3DS price is still higher than the launch price of all previous Nintendo HH's despite the massive $80 drop. The sales have a ton of room for improvement.


The 3DS manges to outsell the PS3 2:1 every week, so that is a little better than slightly.  The DS was just a monster but it's hardware was more limiting during it's time than the 3DS is right now.  Thus, my second point is that the 3DS will last a couple of years longer than the DS did especially considering that it's main competitor is all but being shelved by the industry.  That's why Nintendo needs to act now to avoid the same fate as the Vita!!!  Sony took too long to make the Vita competitive and thus the system paid the price and headed towards obscurity.  A price cut this September would greatly change the fate of the console and give it a fighting chance at being modestly succesful. (40-50mil units sold)  A delay of doing that risks the system to going the same route as Sony's failing handheld; which is going to be much more costly to reverse it's fortunes than an early price cut!!!

Not sure where ur getting ut numbers from, 3DS is sellin just slightly more than PS3 on a weekly basis, even looking at this year so far PS3 is at 4.0 million and 3DS is at 4.2 million.


Looking at Japan numbers mostly as I don't take VGChartz numbers too seriously anymore.



oni-link on 25 June 2013
the2real4mafol said:
oni-link said:
echoesfromthepast said:
No - Nintendo just needs to buy more studios and make more games under their quality control umbrella


Buying studios is somewhat moot, when developers could jump ship and move to diffrent companies.   Developing new IPs or buying old one for dirt cheap and developing them in-house is a better option.  I say Bonk is a ripe to be sold to Nintendo seeing Konami doesn't make games anymore except for MGS.

PES?


OH I AM SO SORRY yes they do have more than MGS they still make PES...I am such a fool!!!  It's also foolish for them to shelve Bonk a game already done from the marketplace.